Do you think mason should be our #1?

It doesn't matter what you or I think, Tomlin is the head coach and it is solely his decision.

 

So that would mean that every HC is not capable of making judgment on a good Qb, because I can name terrible Qb picks by every single HC , and team that has actually drafted qbs.

 

If for some reason Mason starts and throws it all over the place for like 300 yards and we score 30+ points, then yeah... sure. Play him. There just isn't anything in Mason's career that points to him being that guy. He had a small stretch at the end of 2023 that saw him go 77/113 (68%) 948 yards (237 per game) with 5 TD's and 2 turnovers. While this is good playing, it really isn't a reason to think this is not only who he has been his whole career (despite his play proving otherwise) but the guy he will continue to be every time he sees the field. Jake Browning had a huge stretch of games in 2023 as well as a back up and then finds himself out of a QB2 job in 2025 because he's awful. It is what it is. It isn't to say that Mason is awful... he's fine (and likely a pretty high end back up QB), but we have too many people on here that think he is a viable starting QB. He isn't. There's a reason why he's the 46th highest paid QB in the league, and there's a reason why 32/32 of the NFL don't view him as a starting caliber player.

If he plays, I want him to ball out. I'm just not super optimistic that we can sustain wins with him as our starting QB moving forward.

 

It does matter what I say, not think. It's a fact, his opinion is sht, based on history.
And that is the point. You are factually incorrect and your "opinion" is therefore wrong just like Tomlin's, because you are factually wrong.

 

Really?
Hmmm. I seem to recall that we didn't have playoff success" when the QB WAS NAMED MASON RUDOLPH.

If Mason starts it is literally moving us closer to our doing EXACTLY what lost reaulted in a post season fail.

 

I said Tomlin is the Head Coach that is factually correct. If you think that he isn't and that your opinion counts for anything then you are completely insane.

 

I don't think he will be the highest rated QB in the draft. I actually think he's the most likely to fall to us of Simpson/Moore/Mendoza. My bet is that Simpson is the highest rated QB prospect pretty unanimously, and the #2 will depend on the system that team runs. Moore has a better arm, and will be considered the better prospect for a team that wants to push the ball downfield more. Mendoza will be best in a west coast or RPO heavy system that won't require him to air it out downfield too much as his arm talent is mediocre for NFL standards.

 

They also want Tomlin to be fired more than anything. Starting a late round rookie to go on a losing streak fits the agenda. Every last one who wants to do moves that tank us wants Tomlin gone and would ABSOLUTELY BLAME HIM for the losing they advocate.

Sadly for them, Tomlin does not share that agenda.

 

I'm not saying Mason Rudolph can ,or can't do it, but it seems You are basing this on one playoff game, and I could then turn around , and say that about many, many Qbs that have not won their 1st playoff game. Hell I will just use 2 from today's game that many think are awesome. Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. Neither won their 1st playoff game.

 

I am on the start Rodgers train AND also would prefer Tomlin be fired. We can play Howard in 26 (if we cant get to the QB we want in 25, which seems likely). We gotta start making decisions as a franchise for what will be best for the team in the future and not what can keep us scraping out wins to grab the last wild card spot every year. I get that there are worse fates than our current situation, but it doesn't mean we're not making the wrong decision.

 

In answer to the original question by the OP.
I believe Mason should start until Rodgers is complete healthy.

 

Rodgers wouldn't even ball out like that. Won't even come close

 

1 season, bub.

 

Where did you have Bo Nix?

I still think it is important to have the right staff around a young QB than more people realize.

 

For such a literal person, you didn't really read what I wrote.

Can you name a coach that drafted a pickett class QB in the first round (and another QB in the 7th round in the same draft!), then brought in Trub, then brought in Fields, then brought in Wilson, then brought in a 41 year old Rodgers (who you say sucks ass lately)?

BTW, you have, yourself, bashed Trub endlessly and bashed Fields endlessly and semi-bashed Wilson, and now you are dumping on Rodgers.

I can think of Browns matching what Tomlin has done with the QBs lately...

 

This made no sense

 

Are you aware that Mason is in his 8th year and has proven to be nothing more than a backup

He’s had more than enough chances

He is a decent backup nothing more

Are you missing this fact

 

He may be in his 8 th year but has had only 12-13 meaningful starts. I don’t count his starts in Tennessee meaningful because the team was out of playoff and most players including the coach had given up any serious effort to win in what was already a very bad team. Mason has shown steady improvement. He is accurate, has a decent arm, can read defenses and coaches do not have to dumb down the playbook for him. He may very well be a backup, but no one really knows if he can be a top 10 qb. He really has not given a long enough starting stint on a team with adequate surrounding cast. He has been pretty elite in last 3.5 games with Steelers in regular season and that’s not enough sample size to make a determination either way.

 

In the right situation Rudolph could be a Mac Jones kind of backup. That's not a bad thing.

 

He’s in his his 8th season FFS

8 OTS

8 Mini camp

8 training camp

8 preseason

8 seasons

 

I didn't think Bo Nix was bonafide elite. I think he would have failed at Tennessee. That said he seems to be above average and the staff around him has been tremendous.

 

So what's your point? He had the best stats in training camp this year. He had the best stats in training camp last year at Tennessee. He has been elite in his last 3.5 starts at Steelers, the only meaningful starts since his first year of starting. He was pretty decent in his first year of starting before Earl Thomas knocked him out. ( QB rating of 102). When he came back, he not only had to face 'racist controversy' but also had a non existent OL, skill players injury(Both Juju and Conner were out), and also a fanbase that wanted Duck back because of his improbable goofy story. He has has 3.5 meaningful outing since then and has a qb rating North of 118. That's elite but that's not enough of a sample to denote him a career back up or a NFL starter. No one really knows how good or bad he is, but one thing is clear that he has improved and he is a better qb now than in 2020.

 

My point is he is a backup at best

I along with 32 NFL teams and most people on this board know that

 

What do you mean? His stats this season in games that he's finished is very comparable. He's thrown for a little less yardage per game, but the comp% and TD/turnover ratio is all basically the same. And that's a 41 year old Rodgers vs. cherry picked best 4 games of Rudolph's career.