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Trade deadline for the Steelers

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Oct 12, 2025.

  1. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    I'm confused, why was my thread merged into this one?
     
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  2. Steelers '08

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    Ya but it’ll most likely be a second rate WR and the same on the O-line. I hope I’m wrong but that seems to be their MO. I read the other day that Marquez Valdez Scantling is coming to the team, which is one of Rogers favorite targets from Green Bay and is just a very average receiver.

    I would like to see us get AJ Brown or a big time WR. I think we need a better RB. Warren is not getting the job done and they don’t give Gainwell the ball much. I’m not saying Gainwell is the answer but he at least looked decent in the one game without Warren.

    I know Najee is hurt but we should have paid him. I mean what did he get from the Chargers? Like 5 million a year. I think we could’ve afforded that. We should have never let Pickens go. He been going crazy for the Cowboys. I know that means nothing now but we definitely would not have to look for another receiver now.
     
  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Steelers don't need another big time WR he wouldn't get many targets in Arthur Smith offense, Metcalf probably doesn't get enough targets as WR1.
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That’s my point.
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Dont disagree with your overall point but it appears the GB game was the last straw. That Williams TD was horrible effort by Slay. He’s had numerous bad plays.
     
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  6. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Be nice to the elderly
     
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  7. Steelers '08

    Steelers '08 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe but Metcalf is all we have. You can’t tell me if we still had Pickens both of them wouldn’t open up the field more which would make things easier on the weak running game. I have heard MVS and Racheed Shaheed are two WR’s we are looking at. Shaheed is decent but they can keep MVS.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Wilson and Austin are capable of making plays they just don't get enough opportunities, no way were they going to keep Pickens to play with Rodgers.
     
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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  10. biggbunch68

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    Save the picks, and blow it all up in the off season.. Tomlin / Khan made their bed now make them sleep in it
     
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  11. Thor

    Thor Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's wasn't meant as a negative - I've been merging some threads from this season that deal with the same subject in order to streamline and further discussions by cutting back on redundancy, 'look at me' threads, and general clutter (not saying yours was any of those).

    Basically, the goal being to facilitate more robust debate over topics by bringing more voices into the same room, especially for those hot enough to spawn a number of threads addressing the same thing. :thumbs up:
     
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  12. SGSteeler

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    Well MVS was free since he was released… so I don’t hate us at least kicking the tires. Not going to move the needle, but should help if Austin or Wilson get hurt moving forward. He’s also a good deep threat and a quality blocker. He’s fine, even though I don’t think he moves the needle much.

    I don’t know how anyone can look at what Warren brings to the table and think anything about Najee Harris at this point. Warren is averaging over half a yard more than Najee did in his Steelers tenure. He’s giving us more yards per game that Najee has since his rookie year, and is doing so in 2 less carries per game. That’s not even factoring in the fact that he is a better blocker, better in space, and a better receiver. Warren is a vastly better back than Najee, and there isn’t really a viable argument otherwise. We could’ve afforded Najee, but Harris just isn’t worth the 5 million (and honestly just isn’t worth giving carries to because it takes the ball out of the hands of superior players). The only thing I’d like to see more of for Warren is TD’s, but the offense seems very content throwing it to our size outside (and it’s largely been working for us). So it’s a minor gripe.

    I will agree with you on Pickens though. We really played this offseason like we were “all in” but then traded away a very good player for poor compensation. It was a bad decision in my opinion, even understanding that the move made sense personality wise. With our OL improving, and our run game taking hold, having Pickens opposite DK would do wonders for our offense. We still have a pretty quality offense with only DK… but it would clearly be better. If we’re trading Pickens for peanuts then why make all these “win now” moves? It was a head scratcher for sure.
     
  13. Thor

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    Having a foot in each boat when it comes to all-in and retooling seems to be the way the org likes to roll lately. With respect to Pickens, he's definitely more talented than the rest of the corps under Metcalf, but would Smith have employed different sets and plays from what he otherwise has in order to enable him to have a significant impact? The Cowboys have targeted their WRs on 58% of their 294 passes - 171, of which Pickens has been the target 63 times. We've thrown to ours on 41% of 198 - of which Austin/Wilson have seen a combined 33 targets.
     
  14. biggbunch68

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    per Shefter

    The Dolphins are willing to listen to offers on any of their players ahead of Tuesday's NFL trade deadline, but it is -- in the words of one well-placed source -- "highly unlikely" that Miami will trade wide receiver Jaylen Waddle. The Dolphins are expected to trade away at least one of their pass rushers, according to league sources, but a trade involving Waddle would be exceedingly difficult to pull off for a variety of factors. For starters, the Dolphins are expected to ask for -- in the words of a source -- "a 1-plus" in any potential trade for Waddle, meaning they believe they would have to receive a first-round draft pick plus other compensation.
     
  15. Formerscribe

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    They would get opportunities if they were getting open more consistently. If Smith wouldn't have been able to adjust to having two stud receivers, then he shouldn't be an NFL offensive coordinator.
     
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  16. Thor

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    I don't disagree with what you're saying on Smith, but wonder if it isn't more they contoured their roster around what he (with what we'd assume to be Tomlin's approval) wants to run his offense - i.e., a trade that includes Jonnu Smith. Not sure.

    With respect to Wilson/Austin, I get that that's a natural assumption, but do we know for sure they in fact aren't getting open (i.e., through an All-22 review)?
     
  17. Brice

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    I have to admit; I would love this trade. And, it has nothing to do with a WR!!! While we have the Raiders on the phone talking about a WR trade.......

    Steelers have a can't miss trade target with the Raiders (and it isn't a WR)


    Darius Slay for JPJ. I know the Steelers scouted the living daylights out of JPJ when he came out. I could easily see Jackson Powers Johnson taking over at the Guard position and never looking back.
     
  18. Animus

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    I'd personally love it. I just don't see it happening. Seamalu seems like he's week to week and probably plays tomorrow and they love Spencer Anderson as Seamalu's replacement next yea.
     
  19. Formerscribe

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    Austin has been disappearing more often than not for a while now. I doubt Rodgers is missing him being open all that often.
     
  20. Karl

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    In my opinion, Omar has done all he is going to do.
    He isn't Howie Rosemon.
    RE: Concern for a 2nd WR getting targets.... I don't see it as a concern. Have you seen how many Receivers Rogers throws to? If you get open, the ball is coming.
    Now if you can't catch it, his confidence level drops...
    I don't see that as a problem with Meyers.
    Omar's strength is not pulling off miracles. He's a very basic guy in that he throws an underbid and every now and then it works.
    He has never gone out with a player in the teams' sights and made something happen.
    So, I think that with the deadline Tuesday, he's only got a line in the water looking for a chance to hook a desperate team.. so you could wind up with a 33-year old WR.
     
  21. Bubbahotep

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    Wow, mods that actually work. A new experience for me (from elsewhere)... thanks.
     
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  22. Trafalgar

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    I don't care what the standings say, we need to be selling, not buying.

    How many more times are we going to go down this road? Particularly as it looks the the annual collapse is underway 2 months early.

    This team is nowhere near close to being a serious contender. The last two games have shown that without question.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

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    I’m not a fan of free agent Khan, I like draft Khan better but I really think they are making a mistake by not making Weidl the de facto GM. They are going to lose him eventually and will be the same mistake they made with Flores. Which they basically admitted as much, they were hoping to keep him around longer than they had him.
     
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  24. Thor

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    I wouldn't think so, either. Still, with the speed of Metcalf and Austin you can stretch the coverage vertically quickly, which opens the underneath routes. And there are plays where you can tell the TE route is early in the progressions.

    You'd think Austin is built to do damage more in zone than man coverages due to his size, but according to Player Profiler, despite running 43 routes in man (averaging 0.73 yards in target separation) vs. 81 in zone (1.73 yards), he has a 25.5% target share in man and only 13.6% in zone. That doesn't make much sense.
     
  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    And why would the Raiders do that trade?
     

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