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Yds Allowed - 2nd Half Drives

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Bubbahotep, Oct 28, 2025 at 7:02 AM.

  1. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    A graphic showing yards allowed by Steelers defense in the second half of games. An obvious deterioration in the last couple of weeks but the cracks were forming even in the MIN game.

    Disturbing; teams are stampeding out of the gate in the second half and the defense is surrendering.

    YARDS ALLOWED IN 2nd HALF


    Screenshot 2025-10-28 065258.png

    [note: "drive"= drive# assigned to possessing team]
     
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  2. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    IMO Tomlin thinks the game is in hand when it's not. I think it was Cowher who stressed 60 minute men. Tomlin is like 45 minutes at best;)
     
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  3. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    What do the colors even mean? 33yards is light red, but 34 is light green. And isn’t the color-coding backwards? Where’s this from?
     
  4. SteelinOhio

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    Yeah, I think the colors seem to represent positives for the driving team, which I thought was backward as well. But it looks like it's divided up every ten yards, with red being the least yards allowed, moving from red, to pink, to lighter pink, then to light green, up until darker green being the most yards allowed.
     
  5. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it depends if they have score a FG,TD or not?
     
  6. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    EDIT: I see my error. In the OP I should have titled "2nd Half Yds Gained" (offense perspective). Then the color scale makes sense. (hey, it was early morning when I threw it together)

    All data is from NFL pbp. Color scaled from the possessing team's perspective (yards gained). Each column (game) is color-scaled independently from worst to best drive in the half.

    If you prefer the reverse (defense's perspective):

    2nd HALF YARDS ALLOWED

    Screenshot 2025-10-28 075623.png
     
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  7. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I suppose there’s something informative there, but w/o other factors it’s of limited value: did they score? If yes, 7 or 3? If they didn’t score, how did the drive end? Turnover/punt? Where did the drive start? A 50 yard drive starting from their own 5 yard line is better than a 30 yard drive starting at our 30 yard line. How much time of possession did they eat up?
     
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  8. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    I get that you might be fishing for positives in a sea of negative but it's as bad as it looks. In the last two games the opponent has scored on every 2nd half possession except one.
     
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  9. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not at all. It’s a very bad situation. I’m just saying that the statistical measure in the graph is of limited standalone value. It needs more context. A team that builds 20+ point halftime leads and gives up garbage time yards in the second half while maintaining control of the game could have a similar graph.

    The simple stat that opponents have scored on all but one second half possession over the past two games is dramatically more relevant and scary than the chart. That’s BAD.
     
  10. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    It's been my opinion that I don't care how many yards the other team gets. Did they score?
    We can be dead last in the NFL in yards allowed, but top 10 defense in points allowed, and I'm usually still happy.


    The yards don't beat you. The points beat you. This is why we lost vs the Packers. We got FGs, they got TDs. It really is that simple.
     
  11. Steelhammer92

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    Points are most important, but if you're allowing tons of yards, the opposing team is also likely controlling the TOP, which limits your own offense's opportunities to score points. Bad all around, for sure.
     
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  12. Chucktownsteeler

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  13. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    The steelers are in bottom 3 in yards per drive,time of possession per drive that the defense are on the field and play per drive....The only reason they are not worst in PPG are because the turnovers the pats had in the red zone and the pathetic Browns offense

    Still 25th in point per drive against and you make a great point that the offense have fewer opportunity because of their sorry defense
     
  14. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    This is true, however depending on the teams you play…

    1. if you give up a ton of yards but not points eventually the good teams will score tds.

    2. if you’re giving up a ton of yards it usually means the defense is on the field longer. Means less time we can score obviously.

    ultimately you’re right about the points, it’s just eventually giving up so many yards can bite you in the end.
     
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  15. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Fair point about yards but we know that the yards are leading to points against this defense. In a given game, yards might not be the full story, but over multiple games it certainly paints the quality of the team, offense or defense.
     
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