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The Teryl Austin/Defense Complaint Thread (2025)

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Tiggs99, Aug 28, 2025.

  1. feltdeez

    feltdeez Well-Known Member

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    I was on a different board but I wanted to trade Watt after his rookie contract. I know.. sounds crazy but we would’ve got 2 first rounders and enough to actually move up and draft a legit QB.

    Its just too easy to scheme him out of a game. Hell, Miles Garrett had FIVE SACKS last game and they still lost by 10. An edge is not going to win you games that matter the most IMO.

    JH was a monster but we also had a real NT, legit ILB’s and a HOFer at safety.
     
  2. feltdeez

    feltdeez Well-Known Member

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    Have to remember 50% of that 146 went to taxes and another 3 to 5% goes to the agent before seeing a dime.

    Also.. those google net worths aren’t accurate.
     
  3. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Too late.
     
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  4. Tweezer

    Tweezer Well-Known Member

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    Weird how? Cowherd and other media folks are focusing on the cost of the defense. If the defense performed up to task, would we be talking about stop spending money on defense? Are the Steelers having cap trouble?

    Problem isn't on money spent it is on performance and more importantly coaching IMO.
     
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  5. Tweezer

    Tweezer Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't the Steelers have a terrible amount of dead money by making a move like this?
     
  6. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Watt $23M
    Heyward $22M
    Ramsey $19.5 M
    Highsmith $18M
    Queen $17.6

    Honestly, I think we could get by without any of these guys.


    Herbig and Sawyer could easily take over at OLB.
    Ramsey, Heyward, and Watt ... old.
    Queen was overpaid in FA.
     
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  7. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    Unless they can get the other team to pay his full salary. Even so your trading an old player for draft assets and getting younger v
     
  8. STEELWARRIOR

    STEELWARRIOR Well-Known Member

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    Adopt a pay for play process! Go ahead sign players under contracts however based on certain criteria within that contract year by year and game by game is how you will get paid! No more guaranteed money! You play like ****z you get league minimum! You ball out you get max pay per contract! Just thought!
     
  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    They should let Heyward walk after the season not much production from him.
     
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  10. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Should’ve let him go to Cleveland last year
    That was straight out of jacka55es mouth last season
     
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  11. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    One thing they got to do is at least buy Watt some more time to get to the QB. The guys we are facing are getting the ball out super quick. Watt really doesn’t have much time.

    That either falls on the defensive line to get enough of a push straight up the middle to get to make the QB shaky or do something in the secondary to make the QB hold onto the ball for a second or two longer.

    I guess that is easier said than done…our secondary is always filled with new faces every year…they probably have to keep the coverages vanilla.

    Anyone miss Minkah? Say what you want, but he held everything together. I dont remember it being this bad last year. I wasn’t against moving him, but Ramsey isn’t really adding much.
     
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  12. Steelvision

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    Top guys getting old and past their prime coupled with a coordinator who cant make adjustments to save his life.

    Also backfield composed of over the hill vets and our regressing top cover guy (jp jr).

    The biggest surprise though is Watt. He may be done.
     
  13. Steelvision

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    Aside from Watt, who was the last guy we drafted on D and developed into an all star? Its been a while.
     
  14. OB1

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  15. Mashburn

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  16. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Queen is way over paid. Can't cover.
    Heyward was very good, now he's old and can rush the passer.
    Ramsey was good, but that was years ago.
    Highsmith is way over paid. We can get by without him.
    Watt was great, now he is only good.


    I pivot in my mind to our 12 draft picks in 2026.
     
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  17. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    A graphic showing yards allowed by Steelers defense in the second half of games. An obvious deterioration in the last couple of weeks but the cracks were forming even in the MIN game.

    Disturbing; teams are stampeding out of the gate in the second half and the defense is surrendering.

    YARDS ALLOWED IN 2nd HALF


    Screenshot 2025-10-28 065258.png

    [note: "drive"= drive# assigned to possessing team]
     
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  18. steel machine

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    IMO Tomlin thinks the game is in hand when it's not. I think it was Cowher who stressed 60 minute men. Tomlin is like 45 minutes at best;)
     
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  19. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    What do the colors even mean? 33yards is light red, but 34 is light green. And isn’t the color-coding backwards? Where’s this from?
     
  20. SteelinOhio

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    Yeah, I think the colors seem to represent positives for the driving team, which I thought was backward as well. But it looks like it's divided up every ten yards, with red being the least yards allowed, moving from red, to pink, to lighter pink, then to light green, up until darker green being the most yards allowed.
     
  21. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it depends if they have score a FG,TD or not?
     
  22. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    EDIT: I see my error. In the OP I should have titled "2nd Half Yds Gained" (offense perspective). Then the color scale makes sense. (hey, it was early morning when I threw it together)

    All data is from NFL pbp. Color scaled from the possessing team's perspective (yards gained). Each column (game) is color-scaled independently from worst to best drive in the half.

    If you prefer the reverse (defense's perspective):

    2nd HALF YARDS ALLOWED

    Screenshot 2025-10-28 075623.png
     
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  23. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I suppose there’s something informative there, but w/o other factors it’s of limited value: did they score? If yes, 7 or 3? If they didn’t score, how did the drive end? Turnover/punt? Where did the drive start? A 50 yard drive starting from their own 5 yard line is better than a 30 yard drive starting at our 30 yard line. How much time of possession did they eat up?
     
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  24. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    I get that you might be fishing for positives in a sea of negative but it's as bad as it looks. In the last two games the opponent has scored on every 2nd half possession except one.
     
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  25. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not at all. It’s a very bad situation. I’m just saying that the statistical measure in the graph is of limited standalone value. It needs more context. A team that builds 20+ point halftime leads and gives up garbage time yards in the second half while maintaining control of the game could have a similar graph.

    The simple stat that opponents have scored on all but one second half possession over the past two games is dramatically more relevant and scary than the chart. That’s BAD.
     

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