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Warren > Harris

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, Oct 18, 2025 at 7:24 AM.

  1. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    You are starting to resemble Mark Madden Super Genius

    Birds of a feather
     
  2. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Bell also averaged 3.5 ypc his rookie year and got nearly 19 carries a game. Johnson is stuck behind backs that are just better than him at the moment. He isn't good enough at blocking/receiving to take snaps away from those guys. Warren is a high quality all around back and Gainwell is an exceptionally competent RB2. He's more stuck behind good backs than he is a bad back. They're trying to get him involved where they can, but we just have a strong RB room.

    It doesn't mean he is guaranteed to develop into a good back, but it doesn't mean he won't either. Yes, guys like Skattebo and JCM are contributing right away, but that doesn't mean that Johnson won't be as good or better. People seem to forget that many thought we missed on Lacy because he contributed more than Bell did his rookie year, only for Bell to far surpass Lacy as a player.

    If Johnson can't find his way onto the field in year 2, then maybe I will get a bit worried... but I can't blame him for being the RB3 on this team when the RB1 and RB2 are as good as they are.
     
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  3. Steelvision

    Steelvision Well-Known Member

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    Johnson looks like a wasted pick.
     
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  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Just because a third round pick is stuck behind two veteran RBs doesn't mean he's a wasted pick.
     
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  5. Steelvision

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    Warren and Gainwell are both young and producing. I can understand a 3rd rounder being behind one starter, but two?

    just seems like the pick couldve been used elsewhere. Our D for example.
     
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  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    They drafted two DL and an OLB also a CB.
     
  7. Steelvision

    Steelvision Well-Known Member

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    With the way the D was exposed we may have to go back to the well to draft for defense again. Not to mention replacing the D Coordinator.

    Hopefully Johnson is good (but if he was wouldnt he get more carries?) if he is maybe they trade Warren or Gainwell for draft position.
     
  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Life is good

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    And you are basing this on 14 snaps

    What do you want to be when you grow up little guy
     
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  9. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Don’t think Warren has the horsepower to carry the ball like a workhorse.
    Like the guy, but he is what you call a rb that is good in a 2 rb system
    That didn’t make sense
     
  10. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Johnson is a rookie
    Maybe just maybe the Steelers are trying to develop him without overwhelming him
    Understand it is the rb position not a qb position, but some are slow to develop anywhere.
     
  11. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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  12. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    An astronaut
    So I can
    Take up space
     
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  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    And Johnson isn't that good at pass protection or catching the ball yet.
     
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  14. SGSteeler

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    It might've been hedging their bet against Gainwell. If Gainwell wasn't that good, they would need another RB2 and they thought Johnson could step in as RB2 and then hopefully take the RB1 role eventually. He hasn't looked like an NFL caliber back yet, but that doesn't mean he wont be. I thought he'd be more ready than he was (and had pretty high hopes for him in tandem with Warren). However, he will need to work on his game and figure it out by next season. He seems to have decent vision and cut ability, as well as good enough power.... but he looks to lack that elite "start/stop" that Warren has. He doesn't look as slow as Najee, but he doesn't really look that fast to me. There's still plenty of time for him.
     
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  15. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Gainwell is likely gone after this season when his contract is up. Johnson's opportunity starts next year.
     
  16. Mashburn

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    Until he's proven his worth, I understand why people say he's a wasted pick. Heck, when we have seen him, it's been bad.
     
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  17. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you don't want to overwhelm him with how to catch a punt. First you need to hold his hands how to tie his shoes.
     
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  18. Formerscribe

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    You seem to have misplaced your sense of humor. That was a joke. I thought the emojis would have made that clear.

    The Madden comparison is a low blow. I never hid from people I wrote about like he does. I don't troll, posting things I don't even mean just to get a reaction out of people. (The exception being obvious jokes like the one that went over your head.)

    I wonder who here trolls people. :hmm:
     
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  19. mikeyg

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    let's come up with whatever we can to continue to defend your position :facepalm:
     
  20. Steelrules

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    I think we have the needed defensive pieces in place and it’s scheme and coaching. Heck other teams have done more with less
     
  21. forgotten1

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    She said,
    Thank you for a funny time.....
    Call me up
    When ever you wanna mind
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    comeback
     
  22. SGSteeler

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    It's hard to say any rookie is a "waste" like 6 games in... I get that he hasn't been what we hoped he would be early on, but that means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Maybe he turns out to be bad. Who knows? But just because he isn't RB2 6 games in his career doesn't mean that he won't be a decent RB for us moving forward either.

    The disappointing part for me was that he was supposed to be a high quality runner and he hasn't really looked like that. Even if he figures out how to play the modern NFL RB position (blocking and receiving), is he a good enough pure runner to be a difference maker?
     
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  23. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Well, its also wrong.... Rodgers threw for 249 yards. Wilson threw for more than that 5 times last year. He threw for 414 against Cincy in Pittsburgh last year. Its just not true.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    Warren had 16 carries for 127 yards plus 4 receptions for 31 yards but sure, its somehow his fault :lolol:

    The spelling him with Gainwell amounted to 3 carries.

    Harris topped out at 21 carries lat year. Had 2 games with 21 carries, one game of 20 carries and every other game had less than 20 carries.

    Your entire premise is incorrect.
     
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  25. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    I'm only seeing one emoji here
    So, I'm guessing you are being factual and not joking.
     

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