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The NFL has finally figured out how to defend the mobile QB's?

Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, Oct 3, 2025 at 9:16 AM.

  1. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    The NFL has finally figured out how to defend the mobile QB's?


    As I have been saying for years , all the NFL need to do is have an enhanced QB spy ( either a middle ILB of safety and who's man is the QB's every projected passing down ( 2nd and 3rd and 5+ yards. ) , and loosely play zone coverage in the front middle, engaging the QB once he crosses the line of scrimmage. This will limit the top running qb running the ball. I call this position the " QB mobile killer " .

    I took a look at the top 10 passing QB's, yards thrown and only one of them ( Allen ) rates. But Allen has passing skills and a great arm with a 6'5" 230 lbs+ with a superman type of body.
    None of them are " mobile QB's "


    https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/

    Many very mobile Qb are currently hurt and those who are not have been deterred by this new strategy. OC's will use them at thier own risk. Small Qb's tend to get hurt.

    For the purpose of defining what a mobile QB is, he generally can outrun a front sevan and run a 4.6 forty or better.

    That is a running threat.

    This differs greatly from what I refer to as " mobile pocket passers. " In layman's terms that is a 4.65 to 4.8 type of QB.


    What does the board think? Am I on to something in terms of my observation?.


    - JB
     
  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I have always believed that the teams that are good with playing zone have way less trouble with them. Also the good zone teams that can still play the mesh points like they do in college. The Steelers have been fairly successful against running Qbs, but nobody is going to be successful every time against any team because there is more to a football game than just the Qb.
     
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  3. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Too soon to say that after what happened last year and the years before.
     
  4. Mr.wizard

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    The QB spy concept has been around for ever it isnt a new idea and the fact that almost all QBs are cominginto the league with ability to run seems to fly in the face of the fact that NFL has figured out Mobile QB's. Lamar Jackson ran the ball 139 times for 915 yards last season.
     
  5. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    That was last year. This year there is an increased spy role and the running QB's are limited from where thery were last year. The results speack for them selves.

    It is a base nickel, with the spy assinged to the QB on passing downs. A spy cloud be the ILB or a safety. If a QB runs, he is often meeting the spy and getting hit. Jackson is crrently hurt along with Daniles, Fields, and McCarthy
     
  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Are You young?? The Qbs in the NFL for as far back as I can remember have had the ability to run. Some of the top amounts of Qb rushing attempts come from all the way back in 1932. They got away from this when the passing attacks started showing more promise.
     
  7. Mr.wizard

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    Not young and he is not talking about QBs in 1932. In the 80's 90's and Early 2000,s the prototype for an NFL QB was a big pocket passer, Dual threat QBs were rare and they certainly werent running RPO. The NFL has seen a signficant shift in rushing attempts and rushing yards from the QB position because the prototype for QB is now a more athletic dual threat type.
     
  8. Mr.wizard

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    The base defense is irrelevant for a spy concept, the concepts in todays game are based more on D-line funneling and contain, not were you line up a safety or LB'er. Also there is no data to support what you are saying, Qb,s are still running wild, and the fact that some have been hurt doesnt mean teams have stopped Qb's from running.
     
  9. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    The nickel D on 2nd or 3rd with 5 plus yards to go is the best D for the spy. Either the ILB or the safety can be the spy. The NFL is evolving on defense due to below average QB passing skills and above average running by the QB. The emphasis on hitting the running QB has gotten many who do on the injury report.

    The QB killer. Get used to the defense assigning a man to the QB just in case he runs.

    As for stats there are none when defense uses a spy that I am aware of.
     

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