Are Bens days numbered?

Seems to me the Steeler brass is doing a perfect job...Charlie Batch has been replaced and in true management perfection-He is the last to figure it out.

 

Bottom line Ben is a hard cookie but physically taped together just rewind and observe. We need a fine tuned QB ready to take us to the next level when the next injury occurs .. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. In the near #1 Jones #2 Gradkowski

 

Every time I see a thread like this it reminds me of all the years between Bradshaw and Ben. There were a lot of not so great QB years in there, and Ben helped bring the Steelers three more trips to the SB with two more rings. He's a proven winner and is the best option right now.

Having said that, of course there is a need to think about grooming someone for the time that Ben will no longer be the QB. But I just don't think it's the time to start thinking about a new starter to replace Ben yet by any means. Maybe down the road Landry will be in the discussion, but there may be someone else by then, too. For now, Landry will hopefully be a solid backup, which is what he needs to be in the present.

 

ben will be here for 3 more years.

they will look at his play and acess his game when the time comes. i figure they will talk to his agent in year two to see where they are at. we don't even know if ben wants to stay here beyond those 3 years.

the steelers are covering their butts incase something falls through. this was the right year to do this. jones will need a couple of years to see if he can handle it. grad isn't a future. jones could be. it could be someone else by then.

jones has the smarts of how to play this position. he's got the arm. he needs to have it all brought together.

remember ben wouldn't have started without injury either. we can't say every qb we get has to take that same path. they are different players and people. just because we didn't have a SB win after bradshaw, doesn't mean we will have to suffer through the same fate again. the team is trying to whether that storm before it happens. it was a smart move for a good prospect.

time moves on, and we are far from knowing whats going to happen in the next 3 years. SF got rid of joe montana after 4 SB wins. it's not out of the question. it's also not out of the question that ben stays for 5 more and landry falls on his face either. maybe ben wants to walk with his child some day. we just don't know yet and i'll leave this up to the rooneys to decide.

we did get to the SB in between bradshaw and ben and should have twice. the SD championship game was a fluke. let it play out.

 

is this post a joke.. is it april fools day ... must be a slow news day to even discuss a 5 round pick QB replacing ben.. yeah yeah i knwo brady was a 6th round pick.. thats one in a million... bens replacement is NOT on the current roster or picks

HINES

 

Maybe I don't know which way the wind is blowing, but somehow this thread went wide of the mark.

1. Of course Ben's days are numbered. No player will play the game forever. So eventually, yes, Ben will hang 'em up. I'm sure we all hope he does so as a Steeler.

2. Not sure how Batch's comments can lead to a conversation about Jones replacing Ben any time soon (soon = within three seasons). Instead of "replacement," maybe the word "successor" should be used?

3. The Jones pick does two things and two things only: add immediate QB depth, give the team a POTENTIAL starter (a successor) in a few years when Ben's done.

I think it might be a year too soon to draft Ben's successor, but maybe Colbert and Tomlin see something in Jones that makes them believe, with a little work, he can be a star. If they are right, then woo hoo!

 

why? just because he is a 4th round pick? not 5th by the way. is that like james harrison shouldn't have been defensive player of the year because he was an UDFA. this is the post thats a joke. how do you know what will happen or who it would happen to because of where they were drafted?

 

IMO, if they were thinking on how to replace him, they would have traded him 2 years ago, when his off-field issues were still buzzing.

 

Are Ben's days numbered? Really?! No. He will be signed to an extension. This guy brought 2 of 3 Lombardi's to this franchise. Oh yea, and to those who forget as well.


Ben is an elite QB. Take a look, and count if you can on how many elite QB's there are. Not many. And Ben is one of them.


Injurys happen. Ben was having a good season, and if not for the injury i'm certain thay would have been in the post season.


They needed to draft a younger arm. Someone who could come in and not break like a pretzel on the first hit. Maybe he can become something. Maybe.


Amazes me that there is even a thought of casting Ben off. I'm sure there are plenty of teams that would be in line for his services.


With Ben, there is at least another Super Bowl win if not two.

Franchise QB. That is Ben Roethlisberger...

Flashback: Mark Malone. Bubby Brister. Neil O'Dunghead.Mike Tomzak.Kent Graham. Jim Miller. Kordell Stewart. Tommy Maddox. Enough said.

 

People are like, totally insulted every time this topic comes up. Landry Jones is a stable offense and some coaching from being a good NFL qb. Is he going to replace BR? Who knows, at this point. "How dare they draft a qb? Ben is Iron Man, the new guy will never see the field. Ben is elite, he is part of the Steeler legacy."
Yes, his window is still open, I hope. But how many more steel-lined shoes, broken noses, uncalled late-hits, etc. can he take? The Rooneys are protecting the future of the team. The current starter is one catastrophic injury away from being the former starter. Some of us on the forum were around for Bradshaw's farewell. He didn't want to hang it up, but his body said otherwise. It seems that the team wants to have a plan in place in case of injury or contract issue.

 

In other words, you agree with me. Right?

 

And here I thought I MYSELF was the only one on the board who thought Brady was the best ever. LOL. Bobby Biz said my man crush was disturbing once.

 

Quick question, has Tom Brady/Peyton endured the hits that #7 has up to similiar points in their careers? I think not. I would say the same thing if it wasn't for the hits over the years that #7 has taken. #7 is breaking down right before our eyes,(he has lost his magic) I am not going to pay a broken down QB 25 mill/season I don't care how many super bowls he has won me.I am in no way advocating that Landry Jones is the heir apparent to Ben R. The Steelers needed to draft a young QB,but at the selection they did? With the current needs of our team you really have to be scratching your head at thier selection they chose this QB.

 

i think he was their guy, and if they didn't take a guy that at the very least has a possibility to turn into a good qb, then why reach at a later pick and have to possibly do it again in 2 years. i don't think there is a position that got left out because of his pick.

 

Bottom line is, when was the last time Ben played a full season? Bueller, Bueller? That's right, it was back in 2008 which was the only season in his career that he's played the entire year. This was a wise investment on the Rooney's part. Landry gives the Steelers insurance not if, but when Ben does need to sit it out in the most critical position and provides actual/real competition in training camp. If Landry turns out to be a star, then even better as it gives the team options down the road when the time comes to make some tough decisions.

 

No, we are in agreement. I think you misunderstood my point #2:

"Not sure how Batch's comments can lead to a conversation about Jones replacing Ben any time soon (soon = within three seasons). Instead of "replacement," maybe the word 'successor' should be used?"

This comment was NOT directed at your initial post; it was directed at the entire thread (the conversation) that came thereafter. Your final comment was this: "I swear half the people in this thread read the title and jump to conclusions. Read the whole post, then reply." This more or less reflected what I was saying.

 

When Landry comes in for an injured Ben on Game 2, goes 15-1 and takes us to the AFC game, we'll talk.

 

Im pretty sure 12to88 is agreeing with you, Blast. And, I happen to agree with BOTH of you. The article is about what CHARLIE said. No one is saying Jones is going to replace Ben now or in the future.

 

I don't think anyone including the Rooney's are expecting Landry Jones to replace Ben, but I bet they are sure as hell hoping. It's going to be tough to resign Ben with all these contract restructures, it's going to catch up to us. I personally don't want to think about Ben not being here anymore, I'm just going to enjoy it why it last.

 

Replace a two time winning QB with an unproven rookie, Uh no. I think they are hedging their bet by bringing in young blood. He has talent and if Ben is hurt he might get a chance; provided he is the second string QB and not the third string.

Saving money on overpaying a QB (And I think all the top tier QB's are way overpaid) isn't going to happen. I think best case he gets a chance to learn and back Ben up. Maybe a couple years down the road something on or off the field happens and we say goodbye to Ben but I hope that isn't for another 5-7 years.

I think it's good to bring in someone who might have the talent to lead and we needed to get younger but Ben's replacement? I say no. I'm old enough to rememeber us not having a franchise QB and I do not want to go back to that.

All in all I think this was a good move for depth and its a good convesation for us while waiting for our seventh Lombardy which should happen this year!

 

I said it over in the Landry jones thread and i restate it here. I like the move because it is the first time the Front Office has showed that they are thinking about LIB(life after Ben) THey have to address the QB position and start developing talent there instead of applying band-aids aka veteran Qb's while Ben in still in his prime. Lets face it unless the team either suffers a catastrophic collapse or bundles a lot of picks to move up to the top ten in the draft one year they are not going to find the next franchise QB by maintaining the status quo. Qb's of that caliber just go to fast to be had in the late picks of the first and possibly second round. What they can do it pick up some talented QB's that need some work and see if they can as many have said here take over when LIB begins.

For those of you who think the ROoney's won't cut a two time SB Champion QB for financial reasons don't you bank on it. If I remember the chart that Mac posted a few months back Ben was due to make close 14 million with base and bonuses. Now he restructured again this year so they dropped the base and made everything else bonus money and if I remember correctly that will increase his base salary next season. Sooner or later this will catch up with them and if the cap doesn't go up considerably can they have close to 20 million tied up in one player no matter how many SB's he has played in. Now yes he could rework the deal with an extension and take less money or they could do what they did to Ward, Smith, Harrison, Colon, Kemoeatu and so on. Doesn't matter what you have done for the team sometimes it is all about the money. That's kind of sad really no I am bummed