How can these millionaire players not know the rules?

In every situation you mentioned the ball carrier had possession of the ball making it a safety. In Johnson's case he touched the ball but never possessed it, so if he would have ran back and recovered the ball it would have been a touchback. Momentum of the ball on a muff is also considered. If the officials rule that the ball would have gone into the endzone whether it was touched or not, then if the returner runs back and recovers the ball then it's a touchback. Of course if the kicking team recovers it in the endzone then it's a TD.

 

If You are on offense, it is.

 

IMO its still a Safety as once the ball lands in the landing zone it belongs to the KR team thus becoming a live ball and a live ball fumbled into the end zone and then batted out the back or side by the KR Team would be a Safety.. Basically if the kicking Team can recover it for a TD then the return Team can collect a Safety as well..

Anyway will just have to wait and see if it happens and how the refs deal with that situation..

 

And to me the rules read landing zone live ball and you can not fair catch as I said if the Kicking Team can score then the KR Team must be able to create a Safety in my mind ..Had KJ hustled and knocked it out we would already know..

 

Too be honest, I can't keep up with all the rule changes on the kick off anymore, every time I get used to a new rule on the kickoff, it seems to be changed, but I thought he touched it, and therefore he should have gotten on it.

 

Tomlin has benched Kaleb from kick return duty

Kaleb Johnson will be given another chance to return kickoffs for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Someday.

Just not this week against the New England Patriots.

Two days after Johnson’s mental mistake resulted in a touchdown for the Seattle Seahawks that contributed to a 31-17 loss, coach Mike Tomlin said he is removing the rookie running back from a return role.

When might Johnson resume returning kicks?

“Probably not in the short term,” Tomlin said Tuesday at his weekly press conference. “I’m certainly going to give him an opportunity to work his way back from that error. I believe in his talent. He’s a sharp young man. He’s a hard worker. You leave the light on for him to give him an opportunity to move on from it, but he has to do that.

“He has to display that with his daily work. He has to earn himself back in a position to be a participant. We’ll see where the road leads us.”

 

I would think he needs some carries as a RB.
We need a power run game to show up.
But if he's screwing that up in practice.. well, I dunno.

 

Yes mistakes happen, Foster, Cowher mentioned Plax as a rookie running for a TD and dropping the ball untouched, multitudes of mistakes throughout the NFL land scape. These guys are pros, but also are for the most part young, in the midst of 'battle', and the adrenalin and emotion rushing through the brain is deep. Should he have known, no doubt. Could a young man feeling the pressure of a slow start, in a position he has not played much since yearly college have anything to do with a dumb decision, maybe.

I am not equating him with Franco, but in his first couple of games he looked like a 'bust', then to the league by storm and won rookie of the year. Do I expect that from Johnson, no, but lets hold the over reactions a bit.

 

Not sure if I am 'overreacting'
I'm totally in agreement with you.

 

That remark was to the many reactions Johnson got and has received to the start of his career.

 

If a coach throws the challenge flag on a play that's set for an automatic review, that team will get a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty. This unsportsmanlike penalty will also result in the play not being reviewed at all.

 

This, but this is the overreacting board. Know how I know???
Seasons over 2 games in, and we are 1-1. LoL

 

I don't believe that was specifically to you. I know I do this all the time, I will use a person's post as a jumping off point, and not really mean it towards them specifically, but to the wider audience.

 

Wide audience???!!! My butt is wide enough thank you! lol

 

In that 2 game span how many fire MT posts are there, or have been on various places associated with Steelers content? Honestly do not have a number, just the tired approaches. Should he have not been extended or fired for a multitude of reasons, in my opinion yes, but he was not, nor likely will be so I live with it, lol. In his history I think the team will get better, possibly much better, do I believe it actually could be a far less team than he or the others involved thought, yes. Until that time I just watch, think of the meals that might impress enough to post on Mac's 'What's cooking" thread, and hope the food is not as sick as the play I might see, lol.

 

The really sad part is 80% is just sheep talk, they hear someone bleating something for awhile, and they start bleating it. They think they can't be wrong if so many are bleating it, and yet forget what a mob mentality does to the human thought process.
Am I concerned?? A tad bit, but I know that Heyward is out of shape, and we have 4 starting players off of one side of the ball that haven't played very much.
I can't, and never will be the.......woe is me guy. The it's over guy, the I give up guy. I couldn't as a kid, and I can't as a older adult. I hated playing any sports, hell anything with those types guys. LoL
It's only over when it over, and not until then.

 

"Over!? Nothing is over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!?"