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People are freaking out over Kaleb Johnson's slow start

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Aug 14, 2025.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    You can say it's not impressive to get 1,000 the last four years yet no other RB has done it in that time :shrug:. I know one thing neither Warren nor Kaleb are going to rush for 1,200 yards and catch 70 passes in this offense, behind a bad OL and below average passing game.
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I was looking for Warrens numbers against a stacked box and got two different answers, one good and one bad. The good was 7.0 ypc and the bad didnt offer a number just that he doesnt fare well.

    If anyone has that information I would love to see it. I would think that it probably isn’t very good.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Funny thing, lots of backup RBs have a higher ypc than the starters. That's what happens when you touch the ball twice as much. Fans of teams do this all the time.
    I hope Warren is all that, but until I see him get the majority of the snaps for a few games, I will reserve my judgment, and hope He is awesome.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you'll have to worry about it. Rodgers is not what he was, but He's no Trubisky, Pickett, Fields, or Wilson either. They won't be stacking the line too much against him, at least not until Rodgers shows He can't make them pay.
     
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  5. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Well, look who is only averaging 3.9 YPC :shrug:.
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I'm cool with it. I'm not cool with the one with the 1.5 ypc though
     
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  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    https://www.americanscientist.org/article/understanding-the-butterfly-effect

    Please don't try to bolster a weak argument by presenting false facts. That Harris was injured in a fluke accident does not bolster your previous arguments.

    The Steelers could have had a rock-solid pair of running backs at a relatively cheap cost and they could have used that third-round pick on another asset. They chose to weaken the roster and hope a third-rounder can play a significant role as a rookie. I like Johnson. I hope he can. Maybe the unnecessary gamble the team took before the 2024 season will pay off. Maybe it won't.

    Oh wait. You think Warren has proven something. Did you catch the poor ball security last night?

    They don't bring in a 41-year-old quarterback in a desperate attempt to be relevant once the playoffs start every year.
     
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  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Funny how you ignore the statistics you don't like.
     
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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I was just having some fun with it some fans want to bash Najee for doing the same thing :hehehe:. Yeah, Warren didn't look good in his debut as RB1.
     
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  10. Confluence

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    I dont think Warren is a feature #1 back. Johnson is not ready for that role yet, needs to be a more reliable blocker. Look for RB by committee, Gainwell, Warren, Johnson and Sermon and maybe Nichols on PS as depth
     
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  11. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    I think you’re right. Expecting a split backfield with Johnson featuring more and more as the season goes on.

    Hopefully Jaylen Warren can stay on the field this year
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    3.9 ypc over 13 years compared to 3.9 over 4 years :goofy:

    A player is naturally going to decline as they get older which in turn lowers their ypc.

    We found two people that think Harris is as good as the Bus. Not surprising it’s the 2 member Harris fan club.
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    A first rd pic with a 3.9 ypc is a huge disappointment. It’s not bashing, it’s deserved criticism.
     
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  15. S.T.D

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    Right now I agree, I would like to see Warren pull it out, but we will have to wait, and see. Maybe they will go with whomever has the hot hand per game.
     
  16. Hanratty#5

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    One thing that Tomlin hates more than anything is turning the ball over. If Warren fumbles early on against the Jets he'll find his rear end parked firmly on the bench.
     
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  17. steelersrule6

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    With no blocking and one of the worst centers in Kendrick Green his rookie year, Kaleb Johnson isn't putting up 1,200 yards and catching 70 passes.
     
  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Reading comprehension is hard for some where did I claim Harris is good as Bettis?

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  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    What does that have to do with Harris and how he performed as a first rd pick?

    I didn’t even want Johnson, wanted Skatterbo but you act like Najee put up great numbers that can’t be reproduced.
     
  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Whats the point of making the comparison then, kitten?
     
  21. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Warren better stop fumbling if he wants to be RB1.
     
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  22. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't give a crap about 3.9 YPC, not many lead RBs would be successful behind a crappy OL.
     
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  23. Formerscribe

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    Nobody claimed that. The concern is if the Steelers have anyone who can reproduce them. They don't have answers. They have a couple of question marks.
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    I thought his reason was obvious. It shows that y'all are missing the mark by dismissing Harris for having the same average.
     
  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That’s obvious but other people know it’s important. He was a failed first rd pick that didn’t make it past his first contract and was offered an incentive laden contract by the Chargers. If he was as good as you think he is, that wouldn’t have happened.

    In a market that saw RB’s getting paid again, no one paid Harris.
     
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