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Are the Steelers a better team than last year?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Jun 16, 2025.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    You act like if they had beaten the Ravens in the playoffs last year that would somehow change your life :rolleyes:
     
  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    I see your confusion

    @S.T.D@S.T.D tends sheep

    @steelersrule6@steelersrule6 is a sheep
     
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  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Winning more games is better

    I typed as slowly as I can
     
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  4. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    I agree but would also say Tomlin is far closer his end than he is to his beginning.
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I'm not the same, and the difference is , I don't hold it against anyone that likes a playoff win here , or there, but I will tell You the very 1st thing that goes through my head when we make a AFC Championship game, and we lose......the 1st thing I think is.....we might as well lost the 1st playoff game. I receive no consultation in it for having won a couple of playoff game. I see many do, but I don't.
    Again this is how I look at it all.
    Preseason success: make it out without injuries.
    Regular season success: Hopefully get 1st seed, but at least win enough to make the playoffs.
    Post Season success: win enough games to make the SB. Nothing more ,nothing less. The only way I see any success in just winning one ,or two playoff games is if.....
    1. We have a rookie HC, or ....
    2. We have a rookie Qb....., and I only count that as success because then they have a bit experience in the playoffs.
     
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  6. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    I respect your take but can see where it will lead to many years of sadness between SB appearances. While the Steelers have averaged a SB appearance about every 7 years, it's clearly clumped around young, top end QBs. The intervening years are an arid expanse of mediocre football.
     
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  7. Bubbahotep

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    btw, there was a study done a while back that basically concluded that if a new pairing of a HC/QB doesn't result in a SB in the first 5 seasons, it likely doesn't happen at all if the two remain together. Food for thought when they draft their next franchise QB.
     
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I tried telling this to Raven, and Bills fan, but they don't want to hear it, but that's what history has shown many times
     
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  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    There is a first at everything....I mean,Cowher has won his first super bowl at his 14th year with the steelers and I am sure this is by far a NFL record for the longest wait before a super bowl win with your current team

    I think Andy Reid is second,he won his first super bowl in his 7th year with the chiefs
     
  10. Steelersfan43

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    Bill Cowher had no chance to win a super bowl with us in the 2000s according to some stats like that
     
  11. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    I bet you wouldn’t give a dislike to a truckload of Peter’s @steelersrule6@steelersrule6
     
  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    He didn't, until he was put with a different Qb. Go back, and read what he wrote, and what I agree to. Same with fat Andy....after he got a different Qb.
     
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  13. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Do yourself a favor and start wearing a SCBA when you go outside.
    That smog out there definitely getting the best of you
     
  14. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Dude apparently You aren't reading what he wrote.
     
  15. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    In Cowher's defense... I think Donovan McNabb was better than O'Donnell, Stewart and Maddox. Put McNabb on the '01 Steelers... that sh!t would've been dope!
     
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  16. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    True but it still take 14 years with the steelers to win a super bowl,by far a NFL record for the longest wait for a head coach with a current team
     
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  17. Steelpens65

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    Made me think of
    Marilyn
    Manson
    For some unknown reason
     
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  18. Bubbahotep

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    The Cowher/Roethlisberger was a new HC/QB pairing... so it was in the 5 yr window.

    And yes, there are exceptions.
     
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  19. Bubbahotep

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    Those fans need to start worrying. More the Bills than the Ravens I think.
     
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  20. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    At this point in time yes we are better than last year
     
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  21. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree, and I don't care what anyone says. LoL
     
  22. AskQuestionsLater

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    Coincidentally, this theory does have some merit to it; Often dubbed the "Five Year Window Theory." Quarterback does play a part but the entire Organization is the other major component of it. Other than Kansas City, Los Angeles technically can qualify for this; more so Sean McVay. That said, his Super Bowl win throws a major wrench into it all; Jared Goff getting him there but trading him away for Matthew Stafford to win it. Jim Plunkett from the 70s to the 80s would be the last major example of that happening though Tom Flores acquired Jim through release by San Francisco.


    Regarding the Steelers?! Mike Tomlin and Bill Cowher both won Super Bowls with Big Ben; Tomlin getting to another with him. That said, Tomlin never reached that peak again. Never mind that, the game of the NFL has changed a great deal since 2010 the same. In an interview via the Pat McAfee Show, Tomlin had stated that if he was hiring a Head Coach, he'd have to come from an Offensive Background. I'd imagine that AR II or even Daniel Martin Rooney would think of the same as well. Major reason I put DMR here is that he is becoming more and more active in recent seasons; this current Offseason being very interesting of note by reports. If Tomin decides to hang it up after the 2027 Season, I don't believe that the Steelers would opt for a Defensive Minded Coach but rather an Offensive Minded One... with a twist.


    Focus on Ball Controlled Offense. Not the approach I would take but that has been the motto for the Steelers for a very long time; one that has seen the team to hoist the Lombardi six times over. Pittsburgh tried the cool way via the Killer B's and came away with nothing (though losing a generational talent in Ryan Shazier sure as hell didn't help). I wouldn't mind running the football but there has to be some form of Modern Passing Concepts in that proverbial playbook as well. No team is going to win the Super Bowl by running the ball heavily anymore.
     

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