Terry Bradshaw on Chuck Noll

It was stated by different folks in the media and league that it took 5 years for a QB to come to fruition in the NFL (at that time). Outliers, sure, but a different game and expectations. Joe Green said in an interview (I think ESPN) that they knew TB was the guy who would take them to the SB, even after he was replaced by Joe Gilliam. All the criticism that he generated, he still is holding 4 rings as a starting QB, not many can say that.

 

Remember that Terry called his own plays and beat the vaunted Dallas Doomsday Defense every time in the big games. Landy's flex defense was considered to be the most complex defense in the NFL at the time. Dallas had four future HOFers on that defense.

 

You are correct. Just like many Qbs can't say they played with 10 HOF players for most of their career.....hell outside of Bradshaw, can any Qb say that??? That's not being smart a$$, that's a serious question.

 

Off topic a bit, but relevant in judging eras of sports. On my FB a pic of Bob Gibson was shown and different fans shared memories. Some tried to put down, they lowered the mound, this and that...but that man was a wizzard..one of the greats of all time, was at 3 rivers and saw his no hit the bucs...and it was magical. I did not like the Cards, but damn sure can appreciate HOF talent when I see it. Every sport changes to some degree over the decades, many QB's had same or near same % and stats as TB, some markedly better, and many teams had HOF talent, not as many as the Steelers, but we still faced very good teams those years. on that decade there may have been better in stats, but we still got the wins.

 

Good question. Maybe Staubach or Stabler? Montana has got to be up there too.

 

Terrys always crying. Needs to get his estrogen levels dealt with.

 

Ben couldn’t even learn the playbook had to draw up plays in the sand

 

No,he know how to learn a playbook,this is just he had no choice at the end,because the Matt Canada playbook was......

 

He had trouble with the playbook from day one and bragged about not taking it home

Don't pass off his lack of effort and cranial capacity onto anyone else

 

If he was lazy or trouble with the playbook,he would not been great for 15 years.....

 

If he had studied the playbook and put in the effort then he would have been great for 15 years

 

He was a HOF QB....

 

I had one non Pirate or Steelers poster in my bedroom growing up and it was Bob Gibson. Still my favorite pitcher of all time.

 

He was 165-81-1 in his career with 418 TD's so him drawing the play up in the dirt worked pretty well.

 

Imagine what he could have done if he gave the effort Brady did

 

And imagine how much better he could have been

 

Montana was the 1st that crossed my mind, but I don't know.

 

Stop , He learned multiple play books. I've said this a million times people stop making your dislike of someone make you say things that aren't true. The play book from Arians to Haley was vastly different, and anyone watching the game can tell you this. If he didn't learn it , how was he able to call the plays, set up audibles, and even set the line. He said those things like some bodybuilders lie about being natural, or some musicians about being self taught. It sounds cool.

 

I think Montana only played with five, three of them on defense. That includes Jerry Rice, Fred Dean, Charles Haley, Ronnie Lott, and Steve Young. I'm not sure about the other two.

 

SB: 4-0
SB MVP: 2
Playbooks: He called his own plays

Sorry boys. Not close. Throughout his 18 seasons career, Ben was surrounded by tremendous offensive and defensive talent. We won the first SB in spite of him, and while he definitely won the second one with an iconic drive and pass, remember that only happens with an iconic defensive play by Harrison. So if you are going to take points away from Bradshaw because of an epic defense, Ben doesn't win one SB without epic defensive efforts. Not one.

 

The Steelers drafted well, Coach Noll brought out the best in that raw talent, got them prepared for every game, EVERY GAME. And They played against some damn good teams from that era. And Terry was one of the best big game QB’s (better than Ben). He had to bring the Steelers back against the cowboys and rams in those two super bowls. And lets not forget what he did in the playoffs throughout the years. I wouldn't take away what he did in super bowl X either: he gave Swann a chance to make those spectacular catches. I would say it was only in super bowl IX where the defense carried most of the load, otherwise our defense had its hands full in the otter three, Bradshaw and the offense bailed them out.


Ben’s post season record and performances fall short when compared to Terrys.

 

The steelers did not win the super bowl despite Ben in 2005....They won a big part because of Ben.Remember we had to win 3 ROAD playoffs game to play in the super bowl and Ben had been great in those games

Ben had never a great supporting cast on offense AND defense at the same time.In 2008,the steelers o-line was the worst ever to win a super bowl and they had no running game that year.In 2010 when he has been in the super bowl again,his LT was Jonathan Scott who was hot garbage.Ben had much more to overcome and this is normal in a salary cap era

For the defense,in the 2010s,when they were not great,they were hot garbage in the playoffs....This defense had no middle.Either great or either awful come playoffs time

 

I didn't think anyone would challenge the fact that he played like ass in that first SB. 9/21, 123 yards, 2 interceptions, passer rating of 22.6. They absolutely won in spite of him.

 

You are saying one thing and then backing it with something completely different

The Steelers won and lost many games with Ben

But the Steelers most certainly won that Super Bowl despite Ben who had the second worst Super Bowl game ever

Great quarterbacks get Super Bowl mvp

Bradshaw did it twice

Ben can carry Bradshaw’s jock strap