AAron will be talking to the Steelers today

We are having a discussion. We disagree. Until you implied that I didn't understand your argument when I do, we were doing it in an entirely civil manner. That is what is supposed to happen on a message board. I am unsure why that bothers you.

 

Replace Dilfer with Steve Young and now you are starting to get it.

 

I hope he don't take Eli Manning over Marino!

 

If 'he' is me, no. I would take Marino over Eli. But Peyton over Marino? Yes.

 

I like the stories being posted about Pittsburgh talking to Atlanta for Kyle Pitts.

Arthur Smith's biggest problem with Aaron is going to be the Old QB doesn't like to be under center any more, and wants to throw out of the Shotgun quickly. A quality fast TE like Pitts will give you those quick slants across the middle when he is being covered by a LB or Safety.

 

I already got it. I asked you politely not to try to prop up your poor argument by claiming ignorance in others. Please don't do that. Thank you.

 

But you keep showing me that you really don't "got it". Trying to be a friend.

 

This is going to end well

 

Nice try. There is nothing else to get. You made a claim that doesn't align with the facts, and this is the way you chose to address it. There are better ways. Just trying to be a friend.

 

He's got a lot of that, I grant you, but he also is entertaining and lets face it, the Steelers need some life in them and if it takes a vet QB speaking his mind, more power to him.

Also, not all of his arrogance and pomp is bad. I think we'll all be cheering loudly if he pulls out a big win against Ravens or some other playoff team and shows some of that arrogance. I personally think he gets a bad rap. He's kind of a less annoying Kyrie Irving. Both talented, but Irving is on another level of silly/crazy.

I am sure Rodgers will do or say something to make us cringe at some point, but the media is usually quick to try and make a mountain out of a molehill with Rodgers, so I'll take any outrageious headline article with a giant grain of salt.

 

And here he is

 

LoL

 

I totally agree, and please forgive @Formerscribe , he like myself likes to argue just to argue sometimes.
I have totally agreed with Marino takes.
I have always found it funny that the team had no problems getting to SBs before Marino, and even went to a SB automatically with Marino, but as soon as Marino started to get his way, all of a sudden they couldn't, all of a sudden this HOF, SB winning HC couldn't evaluate, or coach anymore, and then they bring in another SB winning HOF HC, and apparently he couldn't coach anymore. Marino was a Great regular season Qb, and Yes he wanted to win, but like a lot of Qb that have success, they start to want to win their way, instead of what will really take them over the top.
For someone to say they didn't have talent in Miami during his time is a freaking laugh.
I also get a huge kick out of people that say for example Tomlin sucks because of His post season, but guys like Marino, and Lamar Jackson are great despite their post season. LoL Like somehow it only counts for certain people.
Also a huge thing in sports is not what You do, but when You do it.

 

Do you blame Marino for the very poor run defense that the Dolphins had in the Marino era?

I mean how many time the dolphins gave up 200 rushing yards in the playoffs in the Marino era?

The answer is 7 of the 18 playoffs game by Marino,who is crazy and this is some other games the defense had very poor game.Aikman would not won those games too

 

Dude, I don't say this to be mean, but You didn't watch the Dolphins play back then, and You are going purely off of numbers. You can actually break down many losses by many teams this way.
Bottom line......He was a great regular season Qb.
He put up lots of numbers , but He didn't do what needed to be done at the right times more often than not.
That HOF , and SB winning HC didn't just forget how to coach, and His other SB winning, and HOF HC didn't just forget how to coach. Like I said before Marino had too much pull they went to a SB, and like many successful Qb, once he had pull, and some power , He wanted to win his way.
I watched him, and J. Johnson have rows on the sidelines because of it.

 

Those teams were built the right way. JJ built the trenches on both sides, had very good LBs, and hard hitting safeties. The other team would have to throw because they couldn't run. Offense ran through Aikman. Smith was incredible, one of the very best. I won't mention 88. They knew how to use aFB and the TE successfully.


F the Cowboys!!!! But you gotta admire how they did it.

 

I don't buy that. Marino, and Jimmy Johnson didn't get along at all in Miami. So whats to say they would have in Dallas. They both had two different philosophies on how football should be played.

 

The strike-year team that made the Super Bowl in 1982 had a dominant defense. The team that made it there with Marino in 1984 still had a good defense. That was not the case for most of his career.

Now you are trying to sell us on the notion that Marino was overruling Don Shula and Jimmy Johnson to try to prop up your failed argument. Talk about laughable.

Nobody said they had no talent. What I wrote was that the Cowboys teams that won with Aikman had far better talent than Marino had around him during his career, which is inarguable among the sane. They were far better defensively. They had a Hall of Fame running back while the Dolphins had a parade of mediocre ones. Their lines were better. The only thing that was comparable was the weapons on the outside.

My side of the argument is based primarily in facts, the comparisons of the two teams and the statistical comparisons of the two quarterbacks. Yours is based in logic that doesn't come close to holding up.

 

It is a hell of a lot easier to produce at the right times when you have a dominant offensive line in front of you and one of the best running backs in NFL history behind you.

Now you are presenting Marino being more animated than Aikman as if it is somehow evidence that he was running the show there, not the two Hall of Fame coaches. lol

 

Facts....LoL...the facts are Marino didn't get it done with not one , but two SB winning HOF HCs. Those are the facts. Also the facts are the philosophy of the Dolphins changed considerably after He played, and guess what....no more SBs.
Facts are J. Johnson , and Marino argued on the sidelines all the time because Marino was changing out of plays.
Facts.....those are the facts. Let praise him for his awesome regular season play, but then let's praise Tomlin for his excellent regular season coaching.

 

You can blame if you want for the lack of running on Marino even if I am not sure this is true but the dolphins biggest problem was their defense,especially come playoffs time....Almost impossible to win when the opponents have over 200 rushing yards on offense and it happen in 6 of the 10 playoffs loss for Marino.Another time,the dolphins defense gave up 44 points in Buffalo in a 44-34 loss in 1990...

Even the great Joe Montana would not win those playoffs game

 

Wish the Steelers had a QB that played so poorly he would score 26 TDs. Been half a decade waiting.

 

The great Joe Montana would not have allowed his team to have that many 3, and outs. We all know if this happens Your D gets tired.
Two questions, and think about this, don't let feelings get in the way, truly think about it.
1. If the team was so bad, why did they do well in the regular season.
2. Is it easier to believe that Marino just didn't have it in the post season, or that not one ,but two HOF, and SB winning HCs just magically forgot how to coach one they got around Marino
Again You didn't watch, and You are purely going off of numbers.