AAron will be talking to the Steelers today

Winner x2! Standard is the standard. Picking up Vick had Tomlin all over it. Very very bad look.
We are no different than Cowboys or Browns when it comes to the moral compass. Very sad
Now, year after year, we pick up has beens and never was qbs. Be better if we picked up a lesbian
Wouldn’t surprise me at all, when Browns cut Watson , Steelers will pursue him

 

The question was who was the better QB?

Sorry if I was not clear enough

 

Rodgers is coming off a very poor 2024 season with the Jets in which he ranked 25th in QBR (48.0) despite having Garrett Wilson and Davante Adams (for 11 games) to target.

 

But an underrated part of the Rodgers career arc is that he played poorly not only last season after missing virtually all of 2023 but also in 2022, his final season with the Packers. Rodgers ranked 26th in QBR that year (one spot ahead of Wilson). So Rodgers' recent struggles shouldn't be attributed entirely to that injury; the decline started before he joined the Jets.

 

Qbr is a made up stat.
Proof.
Ben's last two years QBR 52.5, and 41.3....He had 55 tds, and 20 ints, and a 21-10 recorded.
Mitch Trubisky had a 58.5 Qbr with 4tds, and 5 int, and a 3-4 record his 1st year. LoL
That's all the proof you need. QBR is a made up useless stat

 

So you are saying Mitch was better than Ben?

I disagree.

jk

 

LoL
You know I'm not. LoL

 

@Rollers I think you are safe we will not make 100 pages here

But that is mostly just because a poster in need decided to start a redundant post so now the responses are going there.

 

Agreed, and it isn't close. Aikman had an all-star team around him on offense for years. When did Marino ever have a running back even half as good as Emmitt Smith?

 

I agree to a point, but did you see some of the holes Smith ran through? I'd say that o-line also had a hand in that.

Your point is still valid, though - the Cowboys had a better rushing attack. I just thought Smith was a bit overrated.

 

What makes no sense is someone believing that Tomlin didn't have his finger heavily on the scale when it came to getting his DMV homeboy Vick (and then putting him on the field). And yes, fụck any and everyone who had anything to do with acquiring Vick.

 

Nah. Watson isn't a DMV homeboy. If he was, then he would have already been on the roster.

 

Here's what's important to me about Aaron Rodgers which will separate him from our previous QBs.
Aaron Rodgers was 6th in the NFL in "Quick Throw Rate" which measures how quickly each QB get's the ball out in less than 2.5 seconds.
Steelers 3 WRs all run in the 4.3's. (CA III: 4.32) (DK Metcalf: 4.33) (Roman Wilson: 4.39) That's arguably the fastest WR group in the NFL.
We need the ball in their hands and not the QB's hands. When you watch Wilson and Fields last season there are too many times where they have the ball, instead of our receivers. Rodgers eliminates this issue because: 1. he get's rid of the ball quickly. 2. he understands where to go with the football and 3. this means he's throwing the receivers open, unlike Wilson and Fields. George Pickens was our #1 WR with only 59 catches. Aaron Rodgers #1 WR always has 80 or more receptions. Last Season Garrett Wilson had 101 catches and Devante Adams had 85. Lastly, with the ball coming out so quickly it'll make our offensive line unit look vastly improved. We had the 2 most sacked QBs on our roster last season. Rodgers is one of the least sacked throughout his career. If our # 1 WR has anywhere around 88 receptions then this offense will take off. Aaron Rodgers may be a bit washed up, but his style of play is exactly what the Steelers WR unit needs because of it's quickness.

 

I know dammit!!!!! I was counting on @Blast Furnace to at do the right and thing and merge these two threads! But here we are.

 

This is time to retire when you are below Trubisky on a stat!

 

The better QB is Aikman. I was never a big Marino fan. He was a good QB, just not on Aikman's level. I see Marino similar to Jeff George. All the tools but only played hero ball.

 

should we install a Mod rating system? we'll see who cuts the mustard.

 

Never too late

 

Hahaha haha.
When Did Aikman get coached from not one ,but two HOF HCs.
You people, and Your numbers. It's when You do it. It's funny the Dolphins had no problems making the SB before Marino, and even when He 1st got there, but then magically their HC forgot how to coach. LoL. Yeah whatever, and then the HC that took Aikman to those SBs came, and coached Marino, and apparently he forgot how to coach, both HOF, and SB winning HCs ,somehow forgot how to coach when they coached Marino. LoL
Please

 

Please indeed. Did you even watch both guys? Aikman played the successful part of his career with an all-star team around him. He had one of the greatest running backs of all time doing much of the heavy lifting on offense. He was often a game manager. He did most of this with a Hall of Fame coach of his own.

Marino rarely had even good defenses, much less great ones. He had decent offensive lines that he made look good with his quick release. He played with a parade of scrubs at running back for most of his career.

I know why you want to dismiss statistics in this argument. They make your side laughable. Despite a supporting cast nowhere near Aikman's, Marino didn't just surpass Aikman's numbers as a passer. He blew him out of the water. Marino threw 420 career touchdown passes. Aikman threw 165. Marino set the all-time record for touchdown passes in a season with 48, a record that stood for 20 years and was broken in an era that was far more pass-heavy. Aikman led the league in a statistical category once in his entire career, completion percentage in 1993. Even though Aikman was able to play a far more conservative role for most of his career, their career interception percentage was the same, 3.0.

 

Aikman made those around him that much better. He also had a quick release. He had a ton of football smarts as well. Smith was one of the best RBs to ever play. Smith also had the luxury of a QB that would light you up if you over-played the run on defense.

Maybe there is some of the 'Matt Stafford' mentality to how Dan Marino played. He had Duper and Clayton, later McDuffie, and he threw deep a lot. Same as Stafford with the Lions. When Stafford got to the Rams you could still see some of that hero play mentality. Either he made the play or the play didn't get made. Stafford was smart enough to still be coachable that late in his career. I don't think Marino was coachable once Jimmy got there.

This is just my opinion. Marino was a good, not great, NFL QB. Very unpopular opinion I understand.