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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by CK 13, Mar 10, 2025.

  1. Thor

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    Average net yards per attempt is a little more correlative to wins. PFR has Lamar as the leader with 9.38, league average at 6.13, and Rodgers at 5.87, ranked 24th.

    The caveats would be some small sample size guys ahead of him and the Jets' OL last year. Not saying ours played worlds better, but it's worth noting.
     
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  2. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Rodgers was first in the league with the quickest release. So he must have just got the ball and fired it for a short pass every time.
     
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  3. Steelersfan43

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    Ben was like that in his final 2 seasons.It depends on the O-line, of course, but it's important sometimes to let the play develop if possible, especially on third down when you need a first down. A team must be able to mix it up.

    Of course, it's harder to do that when the O-line is terrible.
     
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  4. Bubbahotep

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    Guess who was tied with Rodgers in yds/att. That would be Mason Rudolph. LOL.
     
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  5. Thor

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    I don't watch many Jets games, but I'd heard their o-line was terrible last year. I know Breece Hall has dropped from 5.8 to 4.2 yards/attempt and 11.5 to 8.5 yards/reception.

    Teams are adjusting, the Jets aren't adjusting back.
     
  6. Blast Furnace

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    its just excuses to give Wilson a pass for ****ty QB play.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

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    Because the team was spiraling and Wilson was playing poorly. Switch QB’s and see if it gives the team a spark. The point total of the games Fields started has no bearing, its not like that is the guys career average, hell the team put up 30 points or so against the Colts with Fields at QB.
     
  8. mac daddyo

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    at this point in time yes. we drafted one and next year will draft another. kent graham, and mike t. were retreads from other teams, i want newbies and a backup vet behind them. :cool:
     
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  9. steelersrule6

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    And you guys think Fields would've fared much better against that schedule?
     
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  10. jeh1856

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  11. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    HELLO

    Hey coach, what's up?

    Hey Aaron. Not much. You?

    Well, I've just been wondering if you were coming to my cook out today?
    Haven't heard anything back from you even though I sent the invite out in February.
    You coming Coach?

    Yeah, uh sure um well
    Hey let me get back to you on that.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

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    Why not try? Why not give Smith the QB he wanted to work with instead of forcing Wilson on him whom he was butting heads with and reigning in what he can do on the field. Why not just open things up with Fields in there instead of the conservative play calling they had his first 6 games.

    Probably doesnt change anything but it was worth a shot.
     
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  13. blackandgoldpatrol

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    With OTA's starting tomorrow, if Rodgers doesn't show up, then I would pull any offers that are on the table...... as a QB, especially on a new team, you would think it should be paramount to bond and create chemistry with the offense around you..... even though it's voluntary , his presence, or absence will speak volumes
     
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  14. jeh1856

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    June 10 mandatory ota

    That’s the date to poop or get off the pot
     
  15. Formerscribe

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    Are you saying that the quality of competition doesn't matter? Are you further arguing that the loss of Pickens didn't matter?
     
  16. Formerscribe

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    Is there a report somewhere that Smith wanted to play Fields? I have read some stuff about him butting heads with Wilson, but that doesn't mean he wanted to go back to playing with the obvious limitations of Fields.

    Also, when were they supposed to make that change? Wilson played well, and the offense looked better before that game in Philadelphia. He had his monster game against the Bengals just two weeks earlier. Do they suddenly bench him for a poor effort against the league's No. 1 pass defense? Remember, the next two games were also on short weeks against outstanding defenses. I can see the argument for benching him after the loss to the Ravens, when he had a couple of brutal turnovers, but do you think Fields would have made the difference against the Chiefs without Pickens?

    If they didn't make the change by then, why make it for the Bengals? Wilson had torched them in the first meeting. Pickens was back, and it was clear that he was better with Wilson in the lineup. Should Tomlin have foreseen Pickens forgetting how to catch the ball that night?

    Sorry. I get the logic behind saying they should have just done something different, but I don't think it makes sense to argue that Fields should have played in those five games. I also don't think it makes sense to compare them to what Fields did earlier in the season against much weaker competition with a healthy Pickens without considering that context.

    I know you think they never should have gone to Wilson. Hell, I never wanted either guy, but for five weeks it looked like the right decision. Then they hit the part of the schedule everyone knew was going to be brutal, and they did most of it without the only viable starting receiver on the roster. I don't think they were going to do any better with either quarterback, and the regular season might have been even worse.
     
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  17. Thor

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    Jeremy Fowler reporting that Kirk Cousins still appears to be on Steelers radar.

    “I had some conversations with people this week that led me to believe that Cousins is at the very least on the Steelers’ radar, if something were fall through on Rodgers. Now, here's how they could make that happen. Cousins has $37.5 million in guarantees between this year and next year. Somebody's on the hook for that, whether it's Atlanta or someone else.

    So to facilitate a trade, Atlanta would need a team to offset some of that money, whether it's $4 million, $20 million, whatever it is, but the feeling around the league is that Atlanta has not been willing to budge on this. They haven't shown a lot of interest in trading Cousins, it would take a hefty price tag for another team to wiggle that out. As one source told me, if they were willing to take a small percentage, like let’s say $7 or $8 million of that money, a deal would be done by now. There was interest earlier in the offseason. Right now, Pittsburgh might be the only hope for Cousins or he’s stuck in Atlanta.
    "

    Still sounds like a long-shot to me. To acquire him with contract as-is, they part with a draft pick and incur a cap hit of $27.5M this year, and $20M in 2026 ($10M guaranteed salary + $10M guaranteed roster bonus). Keep him in '26 and he adds another $25M i(salary).

    That's just not a good value proposition (unless you're the Falcons).
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    This is my one gripe with you about Qbs on this team. Since I've been on here.....if a Qb you like doesn't produce, the coaches are holding them back with the game calls, what they allow them to do, and what they call....yet when a different Qb comes in all of a sudden, apparently they take off the so called handcuffs. Nobody says hey , don't throw to open guys, and yes coaches will lie to the media about stuff, so not to throw a Qb under the bus.....they won't say.....well we didn't throw into the middle of the field because the Qb is .....1. Afraid to, 2. Never sees it, or 3. Doesn't wait for the play to develop. They stick up for them, at least for awhile.
    You said this with Pickett about certain plays, and then Trubisky would come in and throw to those routes , and Mason would come in , and throw to those routes.
    Then You said it about Fields, but then Kyle Allen, and Wilson would come in and throw those routes.
    So I'm to believe only the Qbs you are rooting for during that time are handcuffed???? I'm not trying to be a smart a$$, so don't take this wrong, it's a honest question.
     
  19. AFan

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    Money aside, and you’ve well outlined the $ impact, what’s the point of Rodgers or Cousins?

    Suppose you can sign them to cap friendly deals, now what? What’s the goal? Win a playoff game?

    Ok suppose they do, Rodgers/Cousins win the division on tiebreaks at 10-7, beat Miami at home in the WC, get bashed at KC in Round 2, does that indicate progress? And even if it does, what do you do in 2026? Double down on the old guy for another yr? or start over?

    If the Steeler have a plan beyond “let’s win next week”, they have been very clever concealing it?
     
  20. jeh1856

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    Rodgers will improve the team

    That is the point and it’s that simple
     
  21. steelersrule6

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    Both Fields and Pickens missed games in the second half of the season, Fields was averaging like 170 YPG just don't see how it would get better against tougher competition.
     
  22. AFan

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    Fine, to what end?
     
  23. jeh1856

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    A better season
     
  24. steelersrule6

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  25. Steelersfan43

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    After training camp like Brett Favre in 2009 and 2010 with the vikings
     

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