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  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Howard and Johnson representing. Wonder who else is there from us.
     
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  2. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    I believe there can be only two Rookies from each Club. Not sure if that is 100% accurate or not though.
     
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  3. Thor

    Thor Mod Team

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  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

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    Over the course of three days in Los Angeles, partners have the exclusive opportunity to engage with the future faces of the game. Through unique player activations, custom gifting experiences, and VIP events, see how your brand can be a part of history at NFLPA Rookie Premiere.
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    Give us stuff and we will talk good about your s(*&.
     
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  5. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Wil Howard is getting an awful lot of attention for a 6th round pick
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Was going to say:

    “Johnson is growing on me”

    but I think I’ll go with, Kaleb is growing on me.

    Warren is still my guy but I’m liking Kaleb more than when we drafted him.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Seems to me he should have been a 3rd or 4th rd pick. That he got to the 6th is crazy to me. I think the Steelers may have taken him sooner but they had a clear plan they were executing for this draft. When he was still there in the 6th they were probably like we have to take this guy now.
     
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  8. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member

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    Howard is a guy that his future is uncertain.
    I watched his last games and he played rather well.
    I went back to look at Tom Brady, for no particular reason...
    Brady wasn't eye-popping good but he was accurate and threw in seams and windows very well.
    Howard needs to develop that some more. Receivers don't like you when you throw them into trouble all the time.
    I don't want to pile a whole lot expectations on the young man, I rather he just do the right things on the field.

    But there is some reasons for the attention.
     
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  9. AskQuestionsLater

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    I wrote about this in my Top Five Positional Rankings that Kaleb is built to play in Zone Based Offenses. Picking him didnt surprise me as much. The major reason it did surprise me was that he was the best zone running back in the class and should have gone a lot earlier.
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He’s not all that fast though. Im surprised they didnt bring in a speedier back if they are trying to capitalize on outside zone.

    He might struggle with the speed of the game at this level.
     
  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    bettis wasn't fast. fast is good but vision to find the opening to run through is a good trait to have and johnson seems to have that. najee struggled with that a bit. :cool:
     
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  12. Thor

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    Definitely agree on Bettis' 'wiggle'. Not sure they ran outside zone though. I remember between the tackles as his forte.
     
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  13. Thor

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    Yeah, and I don't understand the statements that suggest Smith didn't think they had good of an outside zone option last year. Unless he was alluding to Warren being dinged up for part of it, I think he's a good fit for that scheme.
     
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  14. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    no but vision, nimble feet in near any style is a plus. outside zone doesn't always mean they run around the end. his speed may even help giving the line time to get to their blocks to get the hole open. actually quicker backs are to where the hole should be but the linemen haven't completed their initial block and have moved to the next level yet. it's like a dance. timing. seeing where the hole is and cutback ability through it. warren only ran a 4.55. :cool:
     
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  15. Thor

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    I don't disagree with what you're saying about Bettis or outside zone, I just don't personally recall them running much of it during his time here. I recall more power formations, counters, lead open, etc.

    But it could be my memory.
     
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  16. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    it was a form of it because of pouncey's ability to get to that second level. it was actually more of an inside zone with more of a power game at times. the point being a bigger back with vision and good feet can run in any blocking scheme. it's not really back specific as much as o-lineman specific. more doubles and breakoffs to the second level. more B and C gap instead of A and B gap. who is trapping and blocking down sealing the edges and helping on the second level on the inside. many ways to run similar blocking patterns out of any of the schemes. it's not one way only. the backs adjust. it can be one gap difference. mostly where the double teams are happening. not a huge deal.

    before, during bettis time we ran more of a power trap and counter blocking scheme. they were trying to transition because it was the flavor of the month. mostly during leveon bell's time here. many linemen hadn't run that scheme and as always we had power linemen trying to run a scheme they were not as familiar with. just like we used to draft zone corners and wanted them to run more man schemes. we have been transitioning to more outside zone since meyer was hired to run it. prior to him we ran more inside zone. :cool:
     
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  17. mac daddyo

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    for those unfamiliar this may help. it takes some time to teach the footwork or dance moves for each before it becomes second nature. especially if said lineman aren't familiar with it. brains, good footwork and matching with the guy playing next to each other have to work together. one guy can mess up each plays success. a big reason i wanted a new guard for seumalo. young across the board learning it as a group. we have a couple of young guys that may work out though. :cool:
     
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  18. Thor

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    Pouncey? Lol, now you're throwing me a curve. I was talking about what they used during Bettis' prime. Pretty sure it wasn't outside zone.
     
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    before, during bettis time we ran more of a power trap and counter blocking scheme. they were trying to transition because it was the flavor of the month. mostly during leveon bell's time here.

    did you read that part? :smiley1::cool:
     
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  20. Jammasterc

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    He’s the Temu version of Purdy.
     
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  21. Thor

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    Ok, I'm offended you'd even think I'd not read a post of yours in it's entirety. :lolol:

    So which scheme are you claiming they ran with Bettis? I don't remember it as, nor do I see anything to indicate it was, an outside zone. It was mostly a power run concept with a fullback.
     
  22. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that is what i said with bettis. i also said it isn't as much about a RB as it is the linemen, but the RB has to have certain abilities. the bettis comparison is a bigger back with good vision and quick feet. backs can run in any scheme if there is a hole they see and get to. they did run some forms of zone blocking during bettis' time. mostly power/gap.

    maybe this will explain it better.

    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=92e7...tYW5kLXByb3NwZWN0cy1ydW5uaW5nLWJhY2tzLw&ntb=1

    :cool:
     

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