Welcome to the Steelers, Will Howard

No, it isn't lazy. Some have more poor throws than others. When you refer to interpretations of the tape that you don't like as lazy, you are disrespecting opinions different from yours. Those aren't just opinions in the media. They are opinions here. I thought we were all supposed to be respectful of the opinions of others.

There are contradictions in scouting reports all the time. That doesn't mean the flaws aren't there. That doesn't mean anybody is saying he can't fix his flaws, but that does include a level of projection that is not there for better prospects.

 

The rule of thumb I try to follow is to attack the argument, not the person.

If I'm reading the correct post he said, His mechanics is another but meanwhile his tape is littered with great throws. Just seems like another lazy criticism of him. He’s certainly not Fields bad mechanics that needs a lot of work.

I don't read that as attacking the person criticizing Howard; he's taking issue with the critique. Further, the modifier 'seems' reinforces that it's just how it appears to him.

 

Referring to it as a lazy take implies that the person who shared that opinion is being lazy rather than just seeing things differently. That is disrespectful to the person with that take.

 

No, it doesn't. Again, it's saying that a particular comment seemed like a lazy criticism. He's not even explicitly calling the argument lazy, let alone the person making it. It's similar to the difference between saying "you're careless," and "that seemed like a careless decision."

The distinctions may seem subtle, but they add context.

 

(Yeah, I am admitting that this is another outlier that is unlikely to be repeated anytime soon.)

Kurt Warner was 27 before he made an NFL regular season roster, as the 3rd string QB in the 1998 season. The Rams went 4-12 with the 24th ranked offense.
For the 1999 season, the Rams traded Banks and let Bono leave in FA. They signed Trent Green to the starter, and which left Warner as the back-up. When Green went down in a preseason game, Vermeil named Warner as the starter, despite only going 4 of 11 for 39 yards the previous season.
He wound up NFL MVP and SB MVP, guiding the #1 offense. (The defense also jumped from 24th to 4th that season.)

I'm not expecting any of this from MR.
But I think he is the type of player who would benefit from an entire preseason of snaps with the #1 offense players.
So at least for me, his average is not his worst game (the Browns game with the helmet beating), which some people seem to think when they say he is a bad player.
And the potential upside is if he is given more than 3 games in the middle of the season to get a handle on the offense. He won't carry the team (and shouldn't be expected to, as a QB being paid less than many backups), but the offense as a whole seems more productive with him behind the wheel.

(Until the team can get a real difference maker who is not well past his prime. Maybe Howard will show that in a year or two.)

 

I find myself wondering about that very question quite often, but I am working on playing nice so I can continue to play at all.

I already explained this my point. It's not about how you feel. It is about how you portray others. I do not know how to explain it further without being disrespectful, so I will stop there.

 

You are correct about it being an outlier, but there are also significant differences from Rudolph. Warner was still two years younger in 1999 than Rudolph is now. Warner was only in his second season with an NFL team. Rudolph has spent seven seasons on NFL rosters. He didn't get in any games in 2018 or 2022, but he still had entire years of NFL coaching and practice work. Also, it's Kurt Warner and Mason Rudolph. 'Nuff said.

 

What I do or do not do in my posts does not make yours more respectful. Also, to add context to what you shared, that poster wrote that Johnson carried the ball seven times in Iowa's bowl game. He did not. He did not play in Iowa's bowl game. Is that not a flaw in his knowledge?

 

Rookies make a lot of talk

Sometimes shut up and let your actions speak

Players like Lambert didn’t talk about what they were going to do

 

That is mostly because no one asked.... They didn't have a microphone stuck in their face and asked dozens of questions every week back in the 70's. Nothing like it is today.

 

Nope

 

If a reporter stuck a microphone in Lambert's face he would have had to go see a proctologist to get it removed.

 

Very likely based off what I know of Lambert... but the point remains. Its different today than it was back then. You could be more incognito. Now these players are celebrities with personal brands, etc. Just a different era. Doesn't necessarily mean that today is any worse.

 

Yep

 

Cracks me up when I watch a nationally televised baseball game these days and they have a player in the field mic'ed up for an inning and they're trying to carry on a conversation between pitches.

A couple of years ago Fox tried starting up a dugout interview for batters in the playoffs that just hit a home run or whatever. They'd barely get to celebrate with their teammates for the reporter's sticking a mike in their face. Thankfully it was a one and done.

 

The well earned curse of the Ohio State Qbs, but I put what I seen in the playoffs, and championship game as a plus for him. Lots of players are great players, but not all can do it in the biggest moments, and He did.

 

Dude A. Richardson got drafted in the 1st round, and his mechanics, before snap reads, after snap reads, and anything you want to say were terrible. You can see horrible decisions, and throws game after game, after game, but somehow he got drafted in the 1st round, or what about Justin Fields in college....Mister I lock on to one guy , and He went in the 1st round.

 

Ben wouldn't be so forthcoming if they were both competing on the same team. He's retired now so He can be different.

 

Exactly, and sometimes I , myself write it the wrong way, and have to apologize. Because I mean it one way, and then read later, and see I wrote it the wrong way.

 

All I ask is to be treated the same as everyone else and get the opportunity to do better. I don't think that is unfair at all.