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Playoff reseeding proposal

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, May 19, 2025 at 8:38 AM.

  1. Thor

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    Join the club.

    This is the smartest message board on the planet. Maybe the galaxy.
     
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  2. bignasty92

    bignasty92 Well-Known Member

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    I am on the side that actually loves this. Been calling for a change for years! Either way someone is not gonna be happy when the playoffs start! LoL
     
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  3. Robert

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    I am indifferent to it. It won't change who is in the playoffs. I don't think the way it is now it's a big issue. If it is changed, it won't cost me any sleep
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    It has happened way more than twice.
    You guys are forgetting that 7 teams make it. One gets the bye week. That leaves 6 teams. 3 games, therefore more than likely no matter what the division winner will get a home game. You guys are thinking of past playoff record, and seeding.
    A 12-5 team should not have to go to a 8-9 teams house, otherwise what is the advantage of winning more games, you should just win enough to win the division, and rest your players. This will make everyone keep playing.
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    So just two examples, out of many. It's fair for a 12-4 team to go to a 8-8 team, and can't use a important starter because of the altitude of that 8-8 teams place, or another team that's 11- 5 record took them out of the dome they played in , and had to travel to cold wet place of a 7-9 record team. I mean what is the advantage of trying to win so many games then??? If You see You are going to win your division, just rest your players....automatic home field game. I just think You should be awarded for your wins.
     
  6. S.T.D

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    That's perfect IMO.
     
  7. Thor

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    I'm not saying this is any kind of strong counter to what you're saying - I'd have to go back and compile a bunch of data to see if there's anything of relevance - but what about division winners with middling records but play in tough inter-divisional matchups/locations? Or had a tougher overall strength of schedule?

    I also wonder if it would impact inter-divisional rivalries. I suspect enough bad blood has been built over the years, but if there was no reward for winning the division other than bragging rights, and it's the end of the season and you're nursing injuries, would you rest up knowing you're going to play on the road anyway, or push to beat your rival and take the division (assuming you both have qualified for the playoffs).
     
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  8. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    Teams winning their division with 8 and 9 win records is a rare occurrence.

    I like the current playoff format. I like having division titles that actually mean something.

    Win-loss record doesnt always tell the whole story of a team. A battle tested 10-7 team, that played a tough schedule and fought through injuries, can easily be a better team than a 12-5 unit, that beat up on a weak division and had a couple extra balls bounce their way.
     
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  9. S.T.D

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    Wait what??? Why do people keep say this. There have been quite a lot if teams make the playoffs with a 500 record, and worse, and How is worse to have a 12-5 unit with a weak division, than having a 7-9 unit in a weak division, and they still get a home playoff game???:shrug:
     
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  10. S.T.D

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    I believe it would be very hard to have double digit wins, and win your division, and not get a home game in the playoffs under the (if passed) new rule, but we have seen 7-9 record, hell we've had a 7-8-1 teams get home field because their division sucked so bad under the old rules
     
  11. Thor

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    I agree on the double-digit teams; I was thinking more of the 9-8 or worse teams. Like I said though, it's more thinking out loud than anything I can support with anything credible.

    I read a blurb somewhere this evening saying it's not expected to pass, at least this year.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not winning the division there isn’t. Off the top of my head I can only think of Denver and the Cardinals in the last 20 years that have done that. And the Cardinals nearly won the SB if not for a couple of amazing plays by the Steelers.

    Teams that make the playoffs with poor records that didn’t win their division aren’t being granted home field advantage so it doesn’t matter.
     
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  13. S.T.D

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    What about the 2014 Panthers 7-8-1 , and won the division, what about the 2008 Chargers at 8-8, or the 2013, 8-7-1 Packers, or 2010, 7-9 Seattle. All have won their division with 8-8, or less, and got a home game. I'm sure I can think of more.
     
  14. S.T.D

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    They probably won't ever pass it, but, JMO, I think it's a great idea.
     
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  15. Hanratty#5

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    The Seahawks won their division in 2010 with a putrid 7-9 record so they got to host a playoff game against the 11-5 Saints. The Saints won 4 more games than the Seahawks but instead of playing at home indoors they had to travel to Seattle to play in a hostile environment and lost. This new re-seeding rule would put a stop to this insanity.
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

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    I think thats the same record the Cardinals won their division with and came within an inch of beating us in the SB.

    If you want to do this get rid of divisions entirely but to me thats stupid, removes a very enticing part of the game.

    It’s not something that happens a lot that it needs to be changed.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    So out nearly 20 years you gave me a handful of examples out of how many playoff games during that period. Here’s an idea, beat the ****ing scrub team if you are 13-4 or whatever superior record you have.
     
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    So I went back and looked up 2010 Seattle and every team playing wild card weekend except one game had the team with the superior record playing at the team with the inferior record.

    11-5 Jets at 10-6 Colts
    11-5 Saints at 7-9 Seahawks
    12-4 Ravens at 10-6 Chiefs
    10-6 Pacers at 10-6 Eagles

    So do you only care about the teams with .500 or less record receiving home games or any team with a lesser record? To me it doesnt even phase me, thats football, win your division get rewarded with a home game.

    Would you really be ok if the tables were turned and the Steelers won their division with a lesser record and had to go on the road??? **** that.
     
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  20. Hanratty#5

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    I would be absolutely OK if the Steelers won their division with a 9-8 record and had to travel to let's say the Chargers who finished as a WC at 13-4. That would just make sense, the Chargers would have won 4 more games than us of course they should be the home team.
     
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  21. Blast Furnace

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    It doesn’t make sense, it ignores strength of schedule, toughness of divisions.

    if you want that type of format then get rid of divisions which would remove a great element of the game. Bye bye rivalries.
     
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  22. Steelersfan43

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  23. Thor

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    Yeah, just saw an article on it as well.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45252578/lions-withdraw-proposal-change-nfl-playoff-seeding
     
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  24. Blast Furnace

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    Tush push ban failed.

    Also, a resolution to be able to kick an onside kick at any point in the game while trailing has passed. Still have to announce when doing it.
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    Again all the teams I mentioned (off the top of my head, but I had to look up the exact dates)had home playoff games, and were 500, or under, and against teams with a better record. Yes it's the 500 , or losing record that I'm against. I think You should have to at least have a above 500 record of you win Your division to get a home playoff game.
     

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