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Steelers Head Coach Mike Tomlin Reportedly Has Full Control Over Roster Decisions

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, May 18, 2025 at 9:19 AM.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yardbarker :roflmao:
     
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  3. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    This is according to Dulac in his In his weekly chat....
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Newsflash: any HC who has been around as long as Tomlin probably has control over the roster. I still think they work together with the GM.
     
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  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

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    The head coach has to have full control of the roster imo. That's the guy who is making the game plan and if he can't get the players to support his game plan, what use is he as a head coach? Now, I do think that he must work hand in hand with the GM in achieving that roster. But it's not like the GM can just say here's player a b and c, have fun and see you in the super bowl.

    It must be a collaborative effort where the head coach puts forth his needs and desires for players and the GM manages the contracts and money. The trade-offs then come from what's available and what could be afforded.
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Bull$hit. The only HCs that have full control over the roster are the ones that are also the GM, and even they have a owner who is the final say.
    Example: Bill Belichick was the actual HC, and GM, and yet couldn't get rid of Brady when He 1st wanted to, because the owner wouldn't allow him to, and He was actually the HC, and GM.
    Teams don't spend money on GMs, and assistance to do nothing.
    You can't on one hand say the Steelers are the cheapest team, and then say .....they just spend money on a GM just for looks. LoL.
    Also You can't say on one hand , great picks Khan, and then if they don't workout, and are bad picks....see Tomlin does it all.
     
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  7. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    Clickbait

    Dulac made one benign comment regarding cutting Pickens then the writer made it into something it wasn’t then you posted it by adding to it just to make a post

    Nothing more and no story here
     
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    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  9. Steelersfan43

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    True, but I still think Tomlin has a say in the decisions the Steelers make, and he's not the only HC in the nfl... Khan and Tomlin work together, just it was the case with Colbert and Tomlin, and for Cowher and Colbert.

    Teams like the Chiefs,it was Andy Reid who hired their current GM, and they're not the only team who let the head coach chose the GM....Shanahan also choose Lynch as GM with the 49ers
     
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  10. S.T.D

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    They all have a say. What I'm saying is unless they are the actual HC/GM they don't have all the say , and even they have owners above them.
     
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  11. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    The question is how much power Tomlin has in this team at this point and if it's more than Khan...We just don't know at 100%
     
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  12. Born2Steel

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    Over the cuts and deciding who makes the final 53, of course the HC makes those decisions. It's been that way for a very long time. That's part of the job description. Fans will debate their opinions if HCs are good at this or not, but it is right in the wheel-house of what they are hired to do.
     
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  13. jeh1856

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    Absolutely

    It’s a group effort

    Regarding getting rid of Pickens if any head coach says I don’t want him get rid of him then that player is gone
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

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  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Snoozing

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    As would be expected

    Why would any GM add a player the coach doesn’t want
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not sure many coaches without seniority would have much say in the matter if a GM felt the player could help.
     
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  17. jeh1856

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    Owners pay head coaches a heck of a lot more than they do a GM

    I can see who would win that battle

    Plus a coach decides who is on the field why would a GM get a player just to sit on the bench

    If you were a GM would you waste time and resources getting players the coach doesn’t want
     
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  18. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    I would hate to think a former secondary coach is the reason we have brought in so many average cornerbacks during his tenure.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Ask Billy Bean.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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    MLB is different the GM sets the roster the managers don't have much power.
     
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  21. Blast Furnace

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    I dont think the average NFL coach has much power either. Tomlin only has the say he does because he’s been coaching the team nearly 20 years.

    You’re talking about A type personalities, a GM is going to build the team he wants. Of course he’ll take input from a HC but if he wants a guy, hes getting him unless the owner says no.
     
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  22. mikeyg

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    Dulac is a dummy, so I doubt this is accurate.

    FULL CONTROL is a strong statement.

    i am sure he and Khan discuss philosophy, gaps - where they want to go and what pieces go where, along with the scouts.

    but like a marriage (or so it should be!), there is no FULL control....
     
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  23. Karl

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    I do think Tomlin has a lot of say in his players... he should.
    The ratio for balance of power in this case may slant to Tomlin, that's not great.

    But in successful operations, the coaching sees what they have and analyzes them against what they need to do.
    Today's offenses are innovative and just don't run "Riggins left, Riggins Right, Riggins up the middle"
    Matt Canada was incapable of designing anything innovative.
    But real OC's would see a guy like Tyreek Hill and see an opportunity to tap into that talent and exploit it to a strength.
    And when Defense's figure how to stop it, they trade him.

    Something in the supply and demand chain is broken in Pittsburgh.
    Of course, a real QB would change a lot of things.
    Wonder how many years that will take?
     
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  24. S.T.D

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    Exactly. Just look to our very own team back when Cowher, and Donahoe had that falling out, and Cowher almost left. If GMs didn't have any power, Cowher wouldn't have had a problem with Him, and most of that came out after the Troy Edwards pick was a complete failure.
     
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  25. Thor

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    I think a good coach/GM dynamic includes the GM understanding the best players to fit the scheme the coach and his coordinators are trying to run, and using his evaluators to find them.
     
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