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I don't know what is the plan of the steelers

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, May 7, 2025.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Even a hall of fame coach don't know what is their plan....

     
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    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  3. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Bags Tomlin will try and squeak out another non losing campaign to hold up another participation trophy and have the minions cheering from the rooftops! Or riding through the streets on horseback Town Cryer style.

    Maybe they fall into a playoff scenario but we all know how that story ends.

    Good times...

    Rinse and Repeat. Same as it ever was...
     
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  4. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Since when have the Steelers been open and transparent about their plans? Everybody that is scratching their heads and wondering....welcome to what Steelers fans have been going through since the late 80s.
     
  5. steelersrule6

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    Damn, they must be reading my posts on here I suggested the same thing ;).
     
  6. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    If you want to do math with STD it’s 6 months of pounding his chest about the great MT and then 6 months of him crawling back in his hole and disappearing when we get beat by 30 in the WC round. .500 it is.
     
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  7. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    I think you have trouble keeping a woman;)
     
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  8. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    As a youngster in the 60's I remember seasons of 2 wins. Heck in 1969 we won 1 game. Since 1972 our worse season was 5 wins. We have had a few 6 win seasons but the Steelers are not one of those teams that totally suck balls. I have friends that are fans of the Giants, Jets, Eagles and they have seen 2-3 win seasons. I noticed when it happens they simply don't follow their team for that season.

    Even if Mason is our guy I can't see this team only winning 4-5 games.
     
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  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  10. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    You shouldn’t date anybody with a name like that!
     
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  11. Karl

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    I don't think it is any sports teams mission statement is to "let the fan know of their plan."
    Even these reporters are tossing chicken bones in the sand, and using a little tribal knowledge and bits of info.
    There's no GM ever said to me or anyone other than those on his team, "Hey, I'm going to trade Heyward and get Dak Prescott tomorrow at 1:15pm."
    The Steelers, despite my dislike of the Front Office, do keep things tight to the vest.
    Only idiots like Snyder or Jones leak stupid info.

    This time of year is particularly hard to get any good info.
    I know a beat guy that chases tail numbers on the planes associated with the team.
    You can bet the minute any team Jet heads to Malibu California (Aaron Rogers), he will know it.
     
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  12. Javvy

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    I sure hope that plane never leaves the tarmac.....
     
  13. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Nice catch.
     
  14. RichD

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    Looks to me they are trying to build it proper with OL first using high draft capital 2 last years then DL this year with a new rb. Probably DL again next season. Give Rogers or Mason a shot this season and see what Will can do down the road.
     
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  15. AskQuestionsLater

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    I'd agree with this minus the fact that the Steelers haven't been scouting QBs like crazy since 2023 for nothing.


    This season was no different; Pittsburgh scouting these QBs heavily throughout the entire 2024 CFB. Even ones that didn't declare like Drew Allar, Carson Beck, etc, were scouted by Pittsburgh via numerous games. Pittsburgh is going to go for it all in 2026 for a QB.


    Now, if Will Howard can shatter expectations?! That would save Pittsburgh a lot of draft capital. That said, quite a bit would have to happen for that to happen.
     
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  16. OX1947

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    We will have to reiterate this continuously so I might as well be the guy. As long as Mike Tomlin is the head coach, this team will never win another Super Bowl. So, unless the Steelers get a Peyton Manning in the draft, this is the future for this team no matter how much talent they stack elsewhere, QB or otherwise.

    Peyton Manning only won 1 Super Bowl in all his glory in Indianapolis because he had Mora and Caldwell, whom were not good. And the most overrated head coach in that era in Tony Dungy.

    Tomlin’s lone title, which was 17 seasons ago. Let me say that again….17 seasons ago, was on par with George Seifert winning in 1989 after Walsh abruptly retired and Barry Switizer winning in 1995 after Jimmy Johnson was jettisoned due to an idiot owner who to this day still can not get passed his insecurities and inadequacies in the game of football.

    I will continue to watch because I’m an idiot but it’s been very clear for a long time that Mike Tomlin, once he retires, will be the most overrated coach in sports history and will go into the hall of fame for it. Pretty pathetic how low the standards have gotten with the Hall of Fame decisions the last decade.
     
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  17. Steelvision

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    I think they want to go all in with AR but also want to rebuild at the same time and look to the 26 draft.

    i don't know if they really know what their doing.

    Tomlin may want one thing and Khan may prefer something else. And Rooney may be split lol
     
  18. Karl

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    Wearing my old beat writer cap.....

    I am as befuddled as many are in league in what Pittsburgh is doing.
    There is 'stick to the slow and methodical' but this is a bit much.
    And the string of bargain basement players doesn't seem to add much.
    Most, if not all the NFL has high respect for Tomlin.
    I'm sort of on the fence... either he's a genius getting the most out of bargain basement players, or he's a dud not getting anything out of great players.

    Things I do know:
    - No players really have left the team and went on to become super stars. Players that everyone wants/has to have.
    - The coaching staff is not stellar, in fact it seems like old school like from the 70's era.
    - Tomlin doesn't hire potential upgrades or coaches that can change it up.
    - Tomlin did inherit a good team and probably should have gotten more than a win and a loss in the Super Bowl.
    - 18 seasons without a losing record, not many, if any coaches could do that..... but why doesn't management see a need to figure out how to push it over the top?
    - Why do we get so many head cases?
    - The goal is to win playoff games, why do they not improve on a team that made it but fell short due to shortcomings? You go add some horses to it for next season.

    Whatever their plan is, it's not the norm.
    When you have KC's, Buffalo's, Chargers, Bengals to compete with, you set the mark on them and be build to be better.
     
  19. mac daddyo

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    they got rid of 2 bad QB's, 1 average RB, 1 good but simple WR. none of this was a bad move.

    we have added to the trenches. this is also good. we have added to the LB room in a big way actually. we have added a good WR. we have added to the RB room in a good way. we have actually added to the WR room. we have added to the DB room. we have added to the QB room. we have added to special teams very quietly.

    many of these additions or subtractions are not what many casual fans want but it doesn't make them bad moves. many we don't know how they will turn out yet. we have to let many positions get up to NFL speed on the field. players don't step in and become immediate super stars right out of the gate. it's a process. players improve as they get years under they're belt. usually 3 years before they start to play well. they quit thinking and start to react. they have to learn to play with other players added. give it time.

    i don't know any team that wins the super bowl with a bunch of new young players. :cool:
     
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  20. Steel_Elvis

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    I think there’s a need to separate the Colbert years from the Khan years to say “what are we doing,” because it’s changing. Khan recognizes that there’s a need to rebuild in the trenches for sustained performance. Last draft we grabbed 3 offensive linemen, including our 1st and 2nd round selection. This year we grabbed 2 defensive linemen, including our 1st round selection. Time will tell if he got the right guys, but I absolutely believe that building the lines is critical for consistent success. Good line play makes everyone else better.
     
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  21. Steelersfan43

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    Khan need to find a franchise QB next season or all of this will be for nothing....Tomlin is not Cowher,since Cowher was able to wins several playoffs games and make the AFC titles several times with Kordell or O'Donnell
     
  22. Robert

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    His exact win rate is .63111 repeating 1s. Using that to make an average based on a 17 game season (since it used to be 16), it is the equal of 10.73 wins a year. So you are correct. But, I think the frustration lies in his playoff record as much as anything. If we went 8 and 9, got into the playoffs on a wildcard and won the SB, people would be ecstatic and not give a damn about a losing record......imo
     
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  23. Robert

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    I looked the definition of that word up. After reading it 3 times, I gave up and decided to go with 'close enough for government work'. :)
     
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  24. Karl

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    There's a lot of folks looking at this team, as I can most certainly say NFL folks, that aren't as confident.
    I'll give you this, it is only 2 years and they are drafting within the lines.
    But lets be clear, Omar has been here 2001 and has had a hand in drafts since most likely 2011.
    So it is not like he didn't have any input. Yes, he does have more control of the War Room now.
    I'm willing to grade on 2-years.

    As mentioned a few times, I think he is weak not awful.

    Now the draft.
    The Drafting isn't terrible. He does not compliment the draft with Free Agents very well.
    I get the idea of not going crazy in Free Agency, and keep the cost down. (I was so burned out in FA Champions of the offseason, Washington.)
    But he seems to prefer the Blue Light K-Mart specials.

    And if Tomlin is bullying his choices, that is a problem too.

    So right now, Omar does not stack with with the big dawgs. He's pretty mediocre.
    It is just 2 years and he gets some slack there as maybe he does build something.
    But for me, he's on the warning track with a make or break year coming in 2026 where he has a lot of resources to take it over the top.
    The 2026 team will tell a lot.
     
  25. Robert

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    Well said.

    I do wonder if Tomlin is sometimes too much of a buddy or something like that with the players. I know that he is very well respected and that there is no shortage of players who have stated that they would love to play for Tomlin. It makes me wonder if there is a little bit of the 'parent trying to be friends with their kids' mentality instead of being a parent going on. It would explain a few things.
     
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