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Kahn has basically rebuilt the entire roster

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:05 AM.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Not on defense...5th oldest in 2024 and they are not much younger in 2025(for the starters) with Slay at 34 years old,etc

     
  2. Born2Steel

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    If only compared to other NFL defenses, maybe the average age has not changed. But on the Steelers roster it definitely has.

    These guys are not currently on the roster anymore.
    Ogunjobi 30
    Preston Smith 32
    Adams 29
    Roberts 31
    Jackson 29
    Sutton 30
    Kazee 31

    We still have our core veteran guys like
    Heyward 35
    Watt 30
    Killebrew 31

    Minkah and Elliott are both 28, and Slay 34 coming in. If we average the ages out, that number may be higher, but the roster has gotten younger. And again, we're talking about Kahn rebuilding the roster here.
     
  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    You never stop trying to improve as much as you can, even if you win the SB.
     
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  4. S.T.D

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    IMO there is no such thing as closer. You win enough to make the playoffs, and You win enough to make it to the SB. Anything less is the same, or not enough. When the Ravens, or the Bills actually make the SB, then I will say....yep, they are there.....
    Example: I watched theJets make it to two AFC Championship games, and never made a SB, people could say they were closer than a lot of teams at that time than other teams, yet other teams made it to the SB that didn't make it to the AFC Championship during that two times, so how much closer were they really. Again You win enough to make the playoffs, and then You win enough to make it to the SB, Anything less is the same once you make it to the playoffs.
     
  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Thank You....I've stated they both have Qbs that have won MVP, and they still can't make it to a SB, and they are just making the playoffs, and getting beat like we are, but we are doing it with, Masons, Trubiskies, and Wilsons
     
  6. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    Lies. Everyone knows Tomlin holds all the power.
     
  7. Steelresolve

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    Cam Heyward skews this quite a bit. Then you add in Slay and it further skews it. With that being said our offense is pretty young. IN a few years its highly likely both Heyward and Minkah will be gone. The defense will be much younger. I could care less about age as long as they are performing.
     
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  8. Steel_Elvis

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    That’s hard grading. By that grading, a young team with a rookie QB can exceed all expectations and win playoff games and be called a failure. You know, like the Commanders last year. They were 4-13 in 2023, and then went 12-5 and made the NFCCG in 2024. An amazing leap. By any reasonable measure that season was a great success. But on the flip side we have the Ravens who made the AFCCG after the 2023 season, but lost in the divisional round despite SB expectations after the 2024 season.

    Do you really look at them the same way in terms of what they achieved last season?
     
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  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    See my post 98 of this thread....

     
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  10. Steelersfan43

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    And it gave great experience to your young players when you go far in the playoffs,the players can learn more from that....I believe the 2005 steelers don't win the super bowl without their 2004 season since Ben has been much better in the playoffs in 2005 vs his rookie season
     
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  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's not how it works here. you promote from within. you fire the water boy and hope that is good enough. that's why you are the longest tenured coach in pro sports. :smiley1::cool:
     
  12. Steel_Elvis

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    The standard is the standard
     
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  13. S.T.D

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    For the 5089th time. I Look at .....do you win enough games to make the playoffs.....good ....check.....do you win enough games to make the SB.....simple.
    I mean in the regular season who cares the difference between a 3- 14 team, and a 6- 11 team.....neither made the playoffs .....so both suck, and so therefore I feel the same about the post season....I don't care if You won 1 game, 2 games, or 3 games if You didn't make the SB. Once you make the playoffs , making the SB is all that matters.....the rest is for people to say ....well we won one more game......So freaking what.
     
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  14. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Make no sense...Winning 1-2 playoffs game is much better that being one and done.I can said for sure that the commanders fan agree with me.Only 4 teams make the afc or nfc title game,so this is big when you can make it this far...It also mean you have a chance,like one win away to the super bowl...This is more boring when the steelers are not in the divisionnal round and the steelers did not make it since 2018

    Big difference also to finish at 9-7 vs 13-3....the odds are much bigger to win the super bowl with a great record
     
  15. S.T.D

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    Here I will make it more simple.
    There are 3 seasons....Pre seasons, regular season, and post seasons. Preseason means nothing, just basically practice.
    Regular season means winning enough to get into post seasons.
    Post seasons means winning enough to make the SB...
    If it means absolutely nothing for a team that goes 4-13 , compared to a team that goes 6 - 11 if neither makes the post season........then why should it make any difference if a team wins one game, or two games in the postseason if they don't reach the SB.....besides people bragging....well we didn't make the SB, but, but we won one , or two more games than you. That's like the 6-11 team bragging to the 4-13 team about more wins...., and neither made the playoffs. So what...whoopee doo. LoL
    Now if You want to talk about KC, Eagles, 49ers who have made multiple SB lately being so much better than us, then I will agree, but these teams that make the playoffs , like us, and don't make the SB , like us, I'm not hearing how much better they are.
     
  16. Steelersfan43

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    You still not answer this post

    And you are crazy if you think that Ravens=steelers after the last playoffs matchup :roflmao::roflmao:
     
  17. AskQuestionsLater

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    Kevin Colbert's drafting from 2018-2022 is gonna take at least another homerun draft to two or three solid draft's to fix. Their in lies the issue with poor drafting; can set a team back years. Kenny Pickett sure as hell didn't help but thankfully, this isn't the 1980s where developing QBs was nothing more than a hope and a prayer. God knows how many forms of QB Camps and High School QB State and National Competitions are there now to determine the best of the best vs. the best from the rest.


    Luckily for Khan and Weidl, 2026 will have a great selection to choose from; Manning and Iamaleava not included. My personal favorite right now is Drew Allar though I don't expect him to even fall outside of the Top 5. Fernando Mendoza V is someone I am going to be watching very closely this season. Same goes for Garrett Nussmeier though I expect him to be Top 3 overall once the season is all said and done for LSU barring injury.
     
  18. AskQuestionsLater

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    Not saying I disagree with you but @strummerfan@strummerfan does bring up a valid point.


    Khalil Mack was 27 at the time of him being traded to then Oakland. Brian Burns was only 24 when the trade proposal between New York and Carolina was confirmed. Both were below 30; a massive reason as to why both were coveted so highly in terms of trade compensation. T.J. Watt is 30 and will be 31 this season.


    Now, T.J. Watt is a HOF EDGE in his prime; that alone can easily net a First Round Pick alone. To say T.J. can net two for a team in dire need of an EDGE to put them over the hump?! It is possible but I wouldn't call that a guarantee.


    Mind you, this is all assuming Pittsburgh would ever entertain the idea in the first place. A lot can happen but the last Defensive HOF Player that left from Pittsburgh had one helluva Career in Rod Woodson. I don't think the Rooney's are gonna repeat that with T.J.
     
  19. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    To be clear, I was talking about a few years ago....I agree now, it's too late but if it had been 2-3 years ago when its value was at its highest, it would have been possible.

    Below in quote was the first time I mentioned it this in his thread, I mentioned when his value was at its highest.....

     

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