Kahn has basically rebuilt the entire roster

From the department of so desperate to be right he doesn’t realize he shot his whole argument to hell.

How many playoff games have the raiders won since that trade? How many super bowls? Hell how many winning seasons have they had in that span? What about the bears? How did that work out for them?

 

You said I was delusional and stupid to think we could have 2 first round picks for Watt, just look at below

I could add Jamal Adams and Jalen Ramsey, who were traded for two first-round picks... But I'm the one who's wrong,stupid and desperate to be right when I only show the fact .

Sure, the Raiders have had a terrible front office for so long. Maybe that will change this year, but it's been bad for so long. But if you draft well with the extra draft capital you have, you have a good chance of becoming a Super Bowl contender fairly quickly, faster than if you're always stuck in the middle,this is my point

 

A win is a win, and a loss is a loss. Nobody, and their grandma's are saying 20 Years from now, oh they only lost by 3 points. It's win, or don't. I just think it's funny that certain teams get talked about so greatly, that basically are doing the same as the Steelers ....going to the playoffs, and losing. No matter how many words You type, or how you twist it....teams like the Ravens, and the Bills , with Qb MVPs are making the playoffs, and losing before they can get to the SB. What are the Steelers doing??? The same ....making the playoffs, and losing, but without Qb MVPs.

 

So you are saying we should have never drafted Watt......well we are not ready to win a SB, so let's not draft a great player. LoL. That sounds crazy.

 

If you remember we made the AFC Championship Game in 84 with Mark” Tom Selleck” Malone.

 

Pittsburgh fans are loyal, but impatient

 

How many time the bills and ravens have been one and done in the playoffs in this decade?....Only the ravens in 2022 with one of the worst backup QB in the league but still almost beat a great bengals team

This is not the same thing that the steelers who are one and done at best every year since 2017 and they have not been in the divisionnal round since the 2018 season..The Bills at their worst are better that the steelers are their best in this decade

 

Don't say things I never said...I never said to trade Watt for nothing

 

even though you competed the rest of the season to even get to that point? do you think they plan on getting blown out? do you think they give up during the game and don't care? blowouts happen. a loss is a loss.

 

what team has more super bowl wins? alot of good those teams franchise qb's have done them. maybe they should keep looking for one. getting close and never getting there is more concerning if i were their fans.

 

Uhmmmm ....learn to read better, I never said You did. I don't know how You got that out of what I said. LoL

 

So simple question....are they going to the playoffs, and getting beat while having MVP Qbs...Yes, or No???
So are the Steelers, but without a Qb MVP.
There are 3 teams that clearly are doing better than us in coaching, front office.l, and talent acquisition....KC, Eagles, and 49ers. Outside of them....the rest have basically been going to the playoffs to get beat.

 

Show me where I said this in bold

 

Again....learn to read....it was a question...even though I accidentally put a period instead of a Question mark....if You read it , it was a question.....So are You saying..At least thats what I meant to type....LoL...even without a question mark that is clearly a question......so I never said You did , I asked if that's what you mean. Again, where did You get trade for nothing out of anything I said??? I clearly typed it wrong. My bad

 

Only in divisionnal round or afc title game and their game are close for the most part....The steelers often start their playoffs game down by 21 points in the wild card round

I 100% agree that franchise QB matter big time but the Steelers had some embarrassing losses too in the 2010s when we had a franchise QB, like in 2011 against the Broncos with Tebow and 2017 against the Jaguars with Bortles.

Show me the embarrassing losses like that that the Ravens or Bills have had since they've had their franchise QB?

I guess you could say against the Titans for the Ravens in 2019, but outside of that, it was against the Chiefs, Bills twice, Chargers when Lamar was a rookie, and the Bengals in 2022 when Lamar was out for the Ravens. And for the Bills, it was against the Texans in overtime in 2019 when Allen was an average QB at that time, and after that, it was against a Dynasty four times (three of those games were very close), and against the Bengals in 2022.

Close isn't good enough, but at least. It's not embarrassing like when our defense was trash vs Tebow and Bortles in the playoffs in the 2010s.

 

Do you remember when the Texans made the playoffs and the team all got varsity jackets? They actually did that. Then they went to Buffalo, I think, and got their tails absolutely whipped. Do you remember that? That is embarrassing.

 

when you go in as the last seed, you do face the best team. how many years have we been the last seed or even better had to have a team lose to even put us in the playoffs that we really didn't earn?

 

The Bills and Ravens also have franchise QBs, the Steelers not so much.

 

Interesting question. If Fields had signed with the Steelers I don't think we would be looking to Rodgers. I do think we still draft QB in this draft and have a QB room of Thompson, Mason, Fields, and rookie. Having MR and Fields as the veterans would be enough. But that's just my thoughts on it today. Rodgers is the better QB so maybe the door still would be open.

 

losing to a team that can't beat the top team only shows you so much. this all started with getting a franchise qb. OK we name a new qb our franchise guy and then we only lose by 20, has that been a success? was he the factor we needed? sure we are closer to the team that can't beat the best team but are we really better for it? i see it as we still are not where we want to be just because we have closed the point gap. at what point loss do we say we are right where we need to be? 1? 2? 3? yes we can compete but that's as far as we have gotten. still not enough to win the super bowl which is the deciding factor. 1 team wins and the rest are losers by 1 point or 50 points.

 

It's very rare for a team to win a Super Bowl that has never been knocked on the door before, unless it's a young team.

Just look at the champions since 2019.

2019 Chiefs:They were in the AFC title game in overtime the year before
2020 Bucs:True they never been close before but the Bucs had added a 6-time champion at the QB position
2021 Rams:Been in the super bowl in 2018
2022-2023 Chiefs:we all know it was not the first time they were contender
2024 eagles:almost win the super bowl 2 years before

The current Steelers team doesn't have that experience even though their defense is now old, like the 5th oldest in the league during the 2024 season and they are not younger in 2025....

 

They are younger though. That's the whole topic of this thread is how Kahn is rebuilding the roster. Our secondary is mostly the same as last season right now but on the whole we are younger in every position room.

 

And you are