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Pats have offered Sanders a deal

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelByDesign, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Sanders says Ed Bouchette is disrespectful.

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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    What does Sanders think lame duck means? He's not calling you lame Emmanuel :lolol:
     
  3. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    The more that comes out the less I want him here. I hope they learned with Wallace that unhappy players aren't good for the team.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I've alluded to this a few times now, I am seeing shades of Wallace in Sanders. Although in Wallaces defense, I don't believe he ever opened his trap and took on the media.
     
  5. ScottChab

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    From ESPN:

    The money in Sanders' offer sheet won't scare Pittsburgh, sources said. But Sanders can leave in a year as an unrestricted free agent. Instead of risking losing him with no compensation after the 2012 season, the Steelers could opt to take New England's third-round pick now.
     
  6. AFan

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    Even without the Pats tender, he could leave as a UFA next yr, and if he did he'd bring some compensation. Without the Pats offer, they'd still have to decide to make him a long term offer or not. It seems to me that if they let Sanders walk, they're saying they didn't have him in their long term plans anyway. And that part I don't understand. He' a good young 3rd WR on a team with a franchise QB in his prime, why keep redrafting weapons for him?
     
  7. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Well, the author may want to clarify that. We offered him a tender. If we match the Pats offer, and he goes on to sign a contract somewhere else next year...it will figure into the Steelers compensatory picks for the following year.
     
  8. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    kinda surprised Bouchette called Sanders a lame duck starter though... I don't think anyone would like being called that. Jury is still out on Sanders and this year is the perfect year to find out since Sanders foot is finally healthy. Why should the PAT's get to reap all the rewards?

    More I think about it, I think we should match.

    How do you feel about Brown, Plex, and Cotchery next year. Old and slow comes to mind. Whatever WR we draft most likely won't contribute much in his first year so those 3 are who we would be rolling with (unless Hines can still play :) ). I'd rather keep sanders at least for one year.
     
  9. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    not really brown has speed and great moves Burressis still a huge mismatch and cotch is a possession guy. Gilreath has speed and who knows what they do in the draft hopefully they take austin
     
  10. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    As I've said in a previous thread - it worries me. Both Brown and Cotchery have usually performed when called on, sometimes solidly, sometimes spectacularly. But that has always been in the context of us having other receivers out on the field. Plex - who knows? It's difficult to assess his play, as he was underused, and a lot of his supporters seem to be riding off how he played when he was first a Steeler.

    Those three as a receiving corps makes sense only if we have a substantial running game. And at the moment we don't have a starting RB.
     
  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i hear ya thig. cotchery is under appriciated as a receiver. plax with a full training camp is not far behind anyone else in learning this offense really. he's still a big target that has to be covered.

    it was all new for these guys. running game included. would dwyer and redman have run better behind the old system in their first year as the feature guy? this was their shot but it happened in the middle of a new offense. it happened in the middle of an O-line change all season.

    i'm far more hopeful once bicknell gets this line clicking with young talent, the haley playbook will expand and this core of rb's will look far better. we need some speed added. we need healthy players. we need our new coaches to bring these young guys along quickly and i think the run game will be far better.

    i'm not signing off yet on dwyer,redman and batch. this year should by all rights be their A game if they have one. this year will determine if they get paid next year.

    if dwyer shows anything we won't be able to afford him anyway. redman is good #2 back and i think batch will look much better with that knee fully healed now.

    again we are into this one year player thing this roster is full of. at least we have a couple of solid guys like redman and batch we should be able to sign next year without much fear of losing.

    the O will go as the boys up front go.

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  12. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Bouchette offered a rebuttal to the lame duck post-

    "Emmanuel Sanders, on Twitter, apparently took offense to me saying he would be a “lame duck” with the Steelers if they matched his one-year deal and kept him for 2013. He would be that, in my opinion, because I don’t think he and the Steelers would then come to terms on a longer deal and he would leave as a free agent in 2014. That would make this his final season with the Steelers and thus, a lame duck. It seems Sanders took that to somehow be a derogatory term. Of course, it is not, and if it occurred he would join other more famous lame ducks such as Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, George Washington and fellow Pittsburgher Luke Ravenstahl."

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  13. Concussion

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    You would think that Bouchette would understand the definition of lame duck.

    lame duck
    1. An official (esp. the president) in the final period of office, after the election of a successor.
    2. An ineffectual or unsuccessful person or thing.

    Sanders is not 1. so he must have meant 2. Typically, we think players play better in their contract years due to the motivation of potential money.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why do you think he made reference to presidents??? And everyone knows the term is applied to players/coaches that have no contract beyond that year. Sanders definitely should have known what he meant. He is not secured past this year, he's a lame duck.
     
  15. Steel_Elvis

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    I think it was a poor choice of words by Bouchette, and instead of clearing the air he has gone on to try to justify his poor choice of words by way of technicality - kind of like how Bill Clinton never had "sexual relations" with his intern. I think Sanders was justified in being offended.

    I am not a local resident of the Pittsburgh area, but I generally read most or all of the the Trib and Gazette Steelers-related articles that are posted publicly online, and I have to say - I can't stand the local beat writers that cover the Steelers. I think Bouchette is the worst of the bunch, but the others all seem like general sports-guys who know enough about football to converse with mainstream fans, but not enough to really understand the nuances of the game/schemes/etc. Mediocre journalism IMO.
     
  16. Steeltradition83

    Steeltradition83 Well-Known Member

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    When did Sanders become so sensative? Take the third pick and run.
     
  17. 12to88

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    No doubt. Here are the currently available WRs that the Pats ignored in order to go after Sanders.

    Steve Breaston
    Josh Cribbs
    Early Doucet
    Braylon Edwards

    Now, obviously, I don't know the market value of these WRs at the moment, but I don't see how Sanders at $2.5M + giving up a 3rd-Rd pick is a better option for NE than any of these guys. Early Doucet is a similar WR in terms of size and speed, in fact: he's a little bigger. Doucet has the same durability issues that Sanders does. So why in the hell would the Pats do this???
     
  18. Steel_Elvis

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    I think the simple answer is that they like Sanders' game, and they think that he could be a productive WR with Brady. Sanders is a really good route runner, and is very quick in and out of his cuts. That will mesh extremely well with Brady from a timing perspective. He could very well be a much more valuable player to the Pats than to us because of how much Brady relies on precise route running and timing with his receivers.
     
  19. TerribleTowelFlying

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    Brown says he doesn't think the Steelers will match the Pats' offer.

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  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not really sure why as it can't effect anything but that just seems like something Brown should keep to himself :hmmm:
     
  21. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Agree! AB has been talking WAY TOO MUCH the last year or so.
     
  22. HinesWardHOF

    HinesWardHOF Well-Known Member

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    lol...really? really?

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  23. HinesWardHOF

    HinesWardHOF Well-Known Member

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    hes NOT going to sign for 4 years 12 million... are you kidding me? thats 3M a year

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  24. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think he meant 12 million a year for 4 years/48 mil
     
  25. HinesWardHOF

    HinesWardHOF Well-Known Member

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    how do you figure we get a 3rd rounder if we rent him for a year? thats not guaranteed.. we are guaranteed a 3rd round if we let the pats have him..

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