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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by CK 13, Mar 10, 2025.

  1. Thor

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    Your presumption isn't without merit, but doesn't have enough juice to be pronounced as 'correct'. Many other examples exist where the player did not fare better in later destinations. Le'Veon Bell refused to sign his franchise tender. They didn't cave to him; he sat a year. He's since admitted it was a mistake and apologized.

    These type of situations aren't unique to the Steelers. There are a lot of egos in the NFL.
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

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    No I dont. I think it’s silly. First of all, Tomlin is the only thing that grades out well every year on that survey, he is universally loved around the league not just by his players but players on other teams hold him in high regard. Secondly, money talks bs walks.

    Your second statement you can stick in your ear. The correct thing would have been to say nothing at all and not insinuate you had an insult you wanted to levy.
     
  3. Formerscribe

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    I was trying to avoid saying how incredibly foolish it is to argue that perceptions of Tomlin don't matter. Of course they do. Your post didn't counter that argument. You moved the goalposts to saying that you don't think those things have hurt the perception of Tomlin.

    It isn't just about bringing in free agents. It is about being able to get players to do what he wants them to do. In the past, that seemed to be a strength of Tomlin. Getting Antonio Brown to mostly behave as long as he did looks like an amazing accomplishment in hindsight.

    More recently, however, there has been a feeling of the inmates running the asylum. Time and again, we see players wanting out and getting their way. We see sloppy, undisciplined play. WE see him unable to deal with Pickett last offseason, leading to yet another player asking out.

    These things are governed by perception. That's what you aren't getting.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    No I get it fine. You actually think Rodgers taking his time somehow hurts Tomlin. Thats what is foolish.
     
  5. Formerscribe

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    The Steelers look weak, letting Rodgers jerk them around. I think your take on that is silly, but it's not utterly ridiculous.

    Claiming that perception of the coach and the organization doesn't matter, however, is very ridiculous.
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    So the Steelers feel Rodgers give them their best chance to win and because your fee fees are offended you think Tomlin should cut his nose off in spite of his face? You sure you want to talk about silliness?
     
  7. Formerscribe

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    The release of Blount happened very quickly. So did the trade of Pickett. Those are just a couple of examples. Either they threw up their hands and caved or they tried to fix it and failed. Given how quickly those players were gone, they didn't try very hard. That is plenty of juice.

    I'm not sure why you are putting presumption in italics in response to me using assumption. When I used assumption, it was echoing the word you used in the previous post.
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    I don't think you would intentionally misrepresent my point, so you still aren't following. My feelings are irrelevant. The feelings of players on the current roster and potential free agent signings, however, are not.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

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    LOL yeah I’m calling bs on that. You’re not being honest with yourself about your feeling on the matter. You see it al over social media, you see it even on here, people are pissed at Rodgers for dragging it out and want the Steelers to cut bait.

    As for other players, tell me in what way this situation influences any of them? In what way do you think they could use this to their advantage? Free agents don’t find themselves in unique situations like this very often.

    The Steelers already have a contingency plan in place in the event Rodgers doesn’t sign, Rudolph. Theres nothing else to do but wait.
     
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  10. forgotten1

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  12. Steel_Elvis

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    As Cam said, you either want to be a Steeler or you don’t. This drama tells me that he’s a bad fit and the Steelers should move on.
     
  13. Steel_Elvis

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    I have no freaking idea what your point is…. But then, I guess we never really do most of the time.
     
  14. forgotten1

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    Not surprised

    GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND
     
  15. Confluence

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    Let's face reality here, Rogers is not/was not an AFC central or AFC north guy,

    He is an NFC guy, you can tell, plus he likes the indoor dome of the Vikings, he is hesitant, maybe he will become more into the idea of playing for Steelers or maybe not, I don't know,

    I do know that if he still believes in himself he has an opportunity here, I think its getting blown out of proportion, lots of time to go until it really becomes an issue post draft and players start reporting to camp this summer when the team starts taking shape
     
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  16. forgotten1

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    Hmm
     
  17. Formerscribe

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    I'm being fully honest about my feelings, but they are not relevant to my argument. It is what the players think of what the Steelers are doing that matters.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

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    In what way? You didn’t answer.

    The fact is, not a single player looks at what is happening with Rodgers and the Steelers one way or the other. Nothing happening there would deter a player or inspire a player to sign here, it’s irrelevant.
     
  19. Jball

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    I just want to know WTH the plan was the day after the season ended? Was it to get Rodgers? Was that their dream scenario? I can't believe it was to keep Russ or Fields. Could they have actually have butchered that so badly, if keeping one of the two was the actual idea? Did they plan on bidding on Darnold, but lost out? Or giving Danny Dimes a chance? Certainly, having Rudolph as the starter wasn't their loftiest of goals. If waiting around for Rodgers to decide if he even wants to keep playing, at 42 years old, was the main plan, it was a truly awful and uninspired one. Regardless of what you think of the likelihood of succes from any one of those guys, I want to know, what the hell was the plan?
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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    The plan was to keep Fields, but they got outbid by the Jets.
     
  21. jeh1856

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    Fact
     
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  22. jeh1856

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    Jets over paid
     
  23. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    With their current QB situation, you can make the case the Steelers should've overpaid for him :shrug:.
     
  24. Bubbahotep

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    Fail to see where Rodgers is "jerking " the Steelers around.
    What evidence exists of this "jerking "? Not signing a contract is not jerking a team if he doesn't agree with the terms. He or his agent haven't said one word for or against the Steelers. How does one interpret that as a jerk?
     
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  25. forgotten1

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    Well, not sure how but, you made me decide to go to Jerk Island Restaurant in West Palm today. Thanks.
     

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