The Steelers are bringing in QB Shedeur Sanders for a visit

Calm down there Primetime!

 

How does this make sense?

 

My point was that their rankings are the mainstream evaluation.

 

It makes sense to me as well. I hear and read good things and bad things about Sanders and playing in the NFL. I have to wonder if he'll be any good. But it's a chance I feel we have to take should it present itself.

 

Not in the first round do you roll those dice though if you have serious doubts. Perhaps 4th round you take that gamble. Some doubts maybe 3rd round flier but no way do you pull the trigger at 21.

 

If they sign Rodgers what's the point in drafting Sanders? They would be using a first round pick on a guy who isn't going to play this season.

 

That's the conversation. Some say since you don't pick again till pick 83, you take that risk at pick 21. Some say what you are saying. It all makes sense. We all want to get to the same place with competing. Just different opinions on how to get there and how much risk is too much risk.


We needed a WR. Instead of drafting one in the 2nd round, we traded our 2nd round pick for an established WR. Some liked the move, others prefer to risk the draft.

This leaves its with a hole. From pick 21 to pick 83 there will be a lot of players come off the board. It's safe to predict some of those players will be QBs. If there is one you want to take a risk on, it makes sense to use the 21st pick to get him. It makes sense not to take that risk if you don't believe in his ceiling. Each team will value differently, each fan will value differently.

 

1. They have not signed Rodgers.


2. If they do sign Rodgers AND draft a QB at 21, it's called playing the long game. They feel comfortable the draft pick will become the franchise QB in time.


I'm not trying to explain what we should do here. Just why different opinions about this draft make sense.

 

This isn't the draft to play the long game they can get a developmental QB in the mid rounds. Art ll talks about the team needing to stop the run and wanting to win in the playoffs, Sanders doesn't help you do either of those things.

 

Exactly

I thought it was simple and clear

 

If they think Sanders is their guy long term, I don't mind drafting him and having him sit for a year. I just don't think he is that guy.

 

I got your point, but I look at it as saying what we would do in their place. If I had serious doubts about a quarterback, I wouldn't spend a first-round pick on him. I don't think it makes sense unless you believe in him.

 

I dislike only because you do select him (if he checks all your boxes) with Rogers.
I think even checking all those boxes, he is not day 1 NFL ready.
I think all the QBs in this draft, need some bench time. Maybe a little time on the pine nets a big return.

 

I don't think he's that guy which is why I don't want them to draft him.

 

Sanders plays like Pickett sometimes running into sacks

 

9 3/8” vs 8 1/2”

Pickett doesn’t run in he runs out

per se

 

I have no clue what the Steelers brass thinks. I'm sure they have some idea.
But speaking for myself, I do want to work on my QB room.
I know that I cannot get a Franchise QB out of this draft but I can get my future #2 or maybe even a guy that can play well enough that I can trade in a couple year for additional picks.
You get so much 'I don't like that guy' when you mention anyone of them though.
But I look at maybe Riley Leonard out of ND. He's going to be available late in the draft.
He checks a few boxes for me:
- He can move.
- He is accurate
- He does have a quick release.
- He does take care of the ball.
None of that is debatable, what might be is to what level for each of those skills. For me, he's probably a career backup that will be able to play well enough when called upon.
I could get him for 4-5 years on an inexpensive rookie contract and he does not hurt my draft.
Maybe He exceeds expectations, or maybe he plays well enough to be a backup here for 4-5 years.

I think the point for me is, we're screwed already, use those early picks to pick the best players you can as I think it is obvious next year they will make a run at QB.

***edit - I really hate using the phone....**

 

He is a better prospect than Pickett in some ways, but I'm not a fan.

 

I don't remember it at all, but I don't doubt it. Even with Pickett disappointing, I was still right. Pickett has a legitimate shot to be a starting quarterback in the NFL this season. Strong is retired and working as an assistant coach at Nevada.

 

Well everyone laughed at Atlanta last year for doing precisely that. If you think the guy is your future then go get him. He could grow and learn alot sitting behind Rodgers for a year.

 

The depth of DL, I am actually NOT surprised. I don't think any of these 1st round DL are game changers, just good, really good, but just a tier or two below, you can get a good DL in round 3/4 in this draft. I kind of understand Khan/Weidl/Tomlin thinking. QB/RB/other in round 1, get the DL in round 3 or 4 and maybe another (two-down) DL in round 5 or 6?

I'd love to have one of those top 5 DL, but hey, if they don't fit what they do, I get passing on em, maybe a couple are 4-3 types and tweeners with Steelers? If they found a couple they love at the senior bowl and pro-days, that aren't sniffing round 1 or 2, then cool with me. PRobably makes more sense to take the QB or RB in round 1, and the DL in round 3 or 4 in this draft, rather than reverse.

I just HOPE they hit on round 1 and 3 picks (at least), we really can't afford "projects-with-uspide" anymore, we need "polished-with-production". No Artie Burns types. No combine winners with very little college production and mediocre tape (Tomlin loves him some useless workout warriors).

 

Milroe has normal sized hands, why do people keep propagating this silliness? He is a project at QB, but good enough to start at Bama, so not lacking in skills. If you want a running QB in NFL with most playoff teams having running QBs, Milroe is probably the guy, but you got to hope he can improve to solid passer...I won't be upset if he's picked, but trading back or trading up in round 3 makes more sense.

I agree on Howard. He is nothing special. Again though, they HAVE to draft a QB, but in round 1, only Ward/Sanders/Dart are acceptable gets...again unless trading back to like pick 28 or 30 and adding a day 2 pick (that would be nice).

I like McCord better than Howard and probably Milroe, but Milroe running, its very enticing if they see more passing ability than Bama got out of him and Bama is Saban-less now, so could be their coaching wasn't all that.

Shough wouldn't be bad, probably better than Howard too, but he's pretty old for a draftee...again rare to see old draftees turn out well at NFL level.