The Steelers are bringing in QB Shedeur Sanders for a visit

They're a bit different types of players for sure. Howard carries himself like a winner, has some swagger, and his teammates clearly rallied around him. He is big and pretty athletic. Solid arm and good processor of defenses. Good under center and in the PA game. Played best when the games mattered the most. Knocks are that he had one good year on a really good team and that he can have some accuracy inconsistencies at times. Nothing that cant be fixed. Sanders is very accurate. He also has a solid arm and is a very good processor of defenses. He played on an absolute garbage Colorado team and made them relevant by playing well. His knocks are that he holds onto the ball too long and has some questionable leadership qualities. These things can be fixed as well (especially when he is no longer playing for his dad).

I think both prospects are solid ones. If we think either of them could be our next franchise guy, I am good with them sending #21 on either of them.

 

The thing is, if we really like him... it almost has to be at 21. All it takes is for a team like the NYG, Cleveland, the Saints or even Vegas to like him enough to trade up rom their second round pick. I'd agree that he feels like a second round prospect but if we trade back and one of those teams trades up, we miss on the player. Will Levis, Kyle Trask, Drew Lock, Deshone Kizer, Christian Hackenburg... all these guys were second round picks. Howard is as good or better as a prospect than every one of them.

I could see him on a Jalen Hurts type path (not necessarily the same type of player or as good), gradual improvement over his first two years in the league to become a more "finished product" in year three. Josh Allen took a similar career path.... I'd hope he end up as good as Hurts or Allen (no guarantees of course), but I kinda see him as a pretty NFL ready guy. He'd have to be sheltered just a bit like any young QB, but if he goes to an offense that has some playmakers (I like Pickens/Metcalf/Warren/Muth a LOT more than Pickens/Jefferson/Harris/Muth) he could find some decent early success and hopefully develop into our 10 year starter.

He's a poor man's Josh Allen. He doesn't have quite the arm that Allen has, nor is he quite as athletic/as good a runner, but he will likely be that style of player. I think his ceiling is lower than Allen because of his "lesser" traits, but that doesn't mean he can't still be very good. I like the idea of a big QB that profiles as a good pocket passer, but can chip in designed runs on 3rd downs/red zone/short yardage situations. I think he goes very well with what Arthur Smith wants to do with his offense.

 

It is a little sad we have no real QB and looking at a draft with maybe 1 maybe 2 and the possibility of one maybe hidden that pulls off a Brady. Long shot I know but the possibility always exists.
I am very negative on the Front Office, but still putting faith in them that they can pull a rabbit out of their hats.

 

Does Milroe really have small hands? I thought that had been debunked. I thought the problems with Milroe were that he makes terrible decisions and lacks consistent accuracy.

 

Scouting is different, but you still need to avoid over drafting players. If you take a third or fourth-round talent in the first it costs you the player with the first-round talent.

The fourth-round stuff is coming pretty consistently from the scouting reports out there.

 

No, Howard is not as good of a prospect as Levis or Lock were coming out of college. That they turned out to be busts doesn't change the information that was available at the time. Hackenberg was the Jets being the Jets. Kizer was the Browns being the Browns.

Other than the need to clean up his mechanics, the Josh Allen comparisons are nonsense. Howard doesn't have nearly the physical tools Allen possesses. What makes Allen special is his otherworldly physical gifts and Howard doesn't have them.

I like Howard. I'd be fine with him in the third round and very happy to see the Steelers get him in the fourth, but the first is way too early.

 

I like Howard. I don't know if I like him at 21.
He's one of the few QB out of any draft that I have no sense of what he will turn out to be.
Some QB's get into the offenses playbook and improve themselves to higher than what was expected. I think of Peyton Manning who was no threat out of the pocket but knew where every single blade of grass is on every field.

Howard is a big kid and looked pretty good down the stretch. He also showed up when it counted.

I would not mind if he became a Steeler.
But he needs to earn his way.

 

It's not as if these are outliers from fringe news outlets. Pro Football Focus and NFL.com both have him going in the fourth or fifth round. CBS Sports compared him to Jake Luton, a former sixth-round pick of the Jaguars who once threw four interceptions in a game against the Steelers. That was the day a few folks here thought Terrell Edmunds had finally arrived because he intercepted two passes. For the rest of his career, Edmunds only intercepted four more.

You can get away with being slow and mechanical in the pocket playing for Ohio State. You can't do that in the NFL.

 

I’m not saying take Howard in the 1st but I can assure you that there is no way he will be available in the 4th or 5th rounds. I’ll eat a half dozen crows if he is.

 

Both Howard and Sanders have a better arm than Dart too. Not by a ton, but its definitely there. They fit our offense better. Dart to me seems to be a better fit in more of a west coast style offense. Just my thoughts.

 

I have serious doubts about Sanders being a good NFL quarterback

With that said the Steelers would be foolish not to take him if he is still available

 

Dart and Milroe are getting a lot of love from Cleveland and New Orleans, from what I’ve read. Could see them trading back into the first (Cleveland anyhow) to try and grab one.

 

I heard someone on the radio this morning suggest Dart to the Rams would be a great fit.

 

I think there will be a team to trade back into the first round and take Milroe.

 

The Rams would be a perfect fit for Dart. He is only 21 so he could sit and learn McVay's offense behind Stafford for a year or two then hit the ground running when it would be his time to take over.

 

This yes is the real concern.

Here is something I found.

Jalen Milroe's hand size was a topic of discussion during the 2025 NFL Combine, as he was initially measured with smaller hands at the Senior Bowl, with a hand size of 8 3/4 inches. However, his hand size increased to 9 3/8 inches at the combine, a half-inch larger.

Must be stretching them out with a medieval puller

 

Yea. That comparison was laughable.

 

I've seen this, too. It'd be a good fit, but they'd have to commit their first rounder to him.

 

Heard somewhere but can't remember who or where? Dart does not make 2nd or 3rd reads at all, just plain awful. But is extremely good with his 1st. Don`t watch much college so I haven't seen any of these guys play except the Bama kid a few times.

 

Don't let him leave withoug a contract!

 

I get the same vibes, but it's to be tough being Deon Sanders' kid trying to live up to that reputation.

I guess we will find out. My guess is unless we trade into the top 3 I don't think there is any chance Sanders is a Steeler.