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Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by mac daddyo, Jan 30, 2025.

  1. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    You know he is intriguing, have to have a trade lined up for Minka before this could happen. Deshon Elliot moves over to Minka's spot
    and we recoup possibly a third round pick for Minka. The Steelers must think out of the box. And get playmakers.
     
  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  3. AskQuestionsLater

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    Interesting choice indeed.


    Shemar hasn't been told by NFL Teams to bulk up at all. That said, having a "Four Horseman of the Apocalypse" style EDGE Rotation of T.J. Watt, Alex Highsmith, Nick Herbig and Shemar Stewart wouldn't be too much of a bad thing. That said, he may likely not even fall that far.


    Talent like his doesn't come around very often; athletic talent doubly so.
     
  4. AskQuestionsLater

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    I seriously doubt Minkah is going anywhere.


    It is Deshon Elliot who's contract will expire next season. In addition, Juan Thornhill is only going to be here for one season. As I said just before the final two weeks of the Regular Season; Safety is a very sneaky need.


    Beyond Mink that is signed long term, who else?!


    I also wouldn't rule out Jahdae Barron from Texas either.
     
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  5. SGSteeler

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    I think Minkah has a very good shot of getting cut at the end of the year if he brings a 3rd consecutive dud season. Too much cap savings for him to just be sitting there doing nothing. He has 1 year left after the 2026 season.... He needs a bounce back season in a big way, otherwise that 17.6 million bucks in savings is going to look pretty tempting for a post-June 1 cut.

    I am hyper worried if we end up going the Emmanwori route. He's very Taylor Mays/Obi Melifonwu feeling, and neither of those guys turned out. In a vacuum a huge dude that can cover TE's is a great idea, but most players of that type fail. They're just too big to do high end safety things. Change of direction and flipping hips are naturally a problem for bigger guys and having to play in space a lot really negates the size aspect of the player. Kyle Hamilton is probably what we would try to mold him into, as I don't think his skill set is close enough to Kam Chanellor to go that route (Kam excelled in zone and was less of a man guy, while Emmanwori is much more raw in zone and better in man). I'd say of all the first round guys we've brought in for visits, I might be most skeptical about him. I like Xavier Watts as a player anyways. I'd prefer we went that route if we were going safety at 21 (Barron could project there, but I don't know enough about him to project a position change).
     
  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    Nick is the exact opposite of both Mays and Obi in every way. For one, Nick can cover Slot WRs and TEs. That much has been shown since his Sophomore Season. His issue is a lot less based on lack of flexibility and more on sound technique. I do agree that his COD limits his prospects as a Deep Centerfielder though.


    However, regarding the Kyle Hamilton comp?! Athletically Nick has him beat but in everything else?! Hamilton beats him soundly. Regardless, if he had a Kyle Hamilton Rookie Impact, I would sign up for that everyday and twice on Sundays.
     
  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    he's only 5 lbs. lighter than cam. the kid is 290. he could play in our rotation replacing leal as a two position guy and much better one at that. :cool:
     
  8. SGSteeler

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    I'm not sure about EVERY way, but yes, each player is fairly unique. What Emmanwori has going for him is his ability to play man coverage over Mays and Melifonwu. That can be an asset for sure, but the rest of the game is what worries me. The inconsistent urgency in run support and the overall weakness in instincts and route recognition make me think that if he doesn't develop these areas that he will just end up being a 3rd safety in the box for most of his tenure and not a stand out player. He profiles as more of a Jeremy Chinn than Kyle Hamilton. Not a bad player obviously, but probably not worth the investment at 21. If we do take him, I hope we get the Hamilton type player though lol

    I don't think he's the best safety prospect, and if we go that route I would prefer Watts or even Barron as a positionally versatile player.
     
  9. Steelresolve

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    My question is why. Why are we looking at 4-3 DE’s he is the second large edge we are bringing in for a visit. Leal hasn’t really worked out and we made this mistake before drafting Ziggy Hood. We need run stoppers. Big thick immovable behemoths in the middle to plug up at least wo gaps and preferably push the pocket back. I don’t understand Tomlin and sometimes I don’t think he understands himself. He just sees a shiny new object and he wants it without thinking how it will fit in our scheme. Its the same issue with the big safety they are looking at. Sure Minkah had a down year but is that Minkah or coaching. I would prefer he looks at himself and his defensive coaches to figure out how their scheme and coaching effected Mink’s play instead of getting a replacement already when we have obvious other holes to fill on this team. He acts like the line is all shored up and Broderick Jones is just going to light it up this year. Not sure why we aren’t still looking at offensive lineman.

    I understand exactly why Rodgers hasn’t signed yet. He is looking at the offensive line and saying “Do I really want to jeopardize my health a year or two before retirement”.
     
  10. SGSteeler

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    He weighed in at 267 at the combine, not 290. I kinda get the "better Leal" comp, but at 283 lbs (16 lbs heavier than Stewart) and an inch shorter, Leal is much more stout. I know some players can overcome being a bit small for a position and still be really good, but he definitely profiles as more of an edge rusher than DL to me. He is Bud Dupree sized, but has the flexibilty to kick inside and rush if were in a 3rd and long situation... He is a powerful player and looks like he could develop into a good one (albeit possibly on a longer timeline similar to Dupree). I see him as a pretty standard OLB pass rusher that will be sent most times, but can line up in more of a 4-3 DE type spot when we go into sub packages. He would be an interesting pick.

    I wonder if all the interest in edge rushers means we'd entertain a Watt trade on draft day for the right price (first and a second likely). I doubt it, but it definitely isn't a spot I thought we'd be looking at players so high on the board
     
  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    wrong shemar. both from texas a&m. shemar turner is 290 and not a bad option as well.

    https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Shemar-Turner-DL-TexasAANDM

    :cool:
     
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  12. Wardismvp

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    Barron happens to be my favorite pick, instant starter at multiple positions,. Have said this 2 months ago.
     
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  13. Hanratty#5

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    I have seen him mocked to the Steelers although most mocks have him off the board before we pick.
     
  14. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Yea that is what I am hearing, he would make a great Steeler. He likes to hit.
     
  15. Brice

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    They may have skipped the "Showcase" in Colorado, but the Steelers are inviting Sanders to visit Pittsburgh.


    According to multiple sources including NFL insider Jordan Schultz, the Steelers are bringing in Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders for a predraft visit on Thursday.

    It was nice to hear that the Steelers Scout was getting some one-on-one time with Shilo Sanders in Colorado. Shylo would be a great pickup in the 6th or 7th round.
     
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  16. Hanratty#5

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    Adam Schefter insists that if Sanders falls past the Saints that he will fall all the way to #21.
     
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  17. AskQuestionsLater

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    He weighed in at 267 at the combine. An effort to get better results for certain but having him play at 285?! Not sure if that is ideal.


    Unless I am mistaken, teams didnt specifically ask for him to gain weight. That however is besides the point. I just think the team is doing due dilligence.


    If anything, Pittsburgh already tried something similar with DeMarvin Leal. Shemar is far superior a prospect than Leal is but he is more suited to play EDGE than DT or even a 3-4 DE.
     
  18. AskQuestionsLater

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    Having Derrick Harmon and Justin Madibuke would be beyond unfair then.


    As for Hamilton and Emmanwori, true. Kyle can play the Deep Centerfielder while Nick can juat mess things up around the box or near the LOS.
     
  19. steelersrock151

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    Finally bringing Harmon in for a visit. Ollie Gordon and Omarion Hampton, also.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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  21. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  22. Steel_Elvis

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    Yes!
     
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  23. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  24. Hanratty#5

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  25. Steelresolve

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    I don’t see this as a Minkah replacement, at least not out right this coming year. The Steelers really like a 3 safety look and I think they view this guy as a tool piece that can be moved around or perhaps he could play deep free safety and move Minkah around and in particular at slot. This guy is supposedly not that great in the box so perhaps he could be a piece they use to line up against TE’s and as a free safety deep along with Minkah and move Elliot up in the box where he thrives.

    Personally these high RAS score guys don’t always pan out when they lack the instincts. That is my biggest concern with him. I would prefer Malaki Starks over Emanwori because he reminds me of a Branch up in Detroit. Very instinctual and can play the slot or the back end.
     

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