Controversial, but Omar Khan and possibly Tomlin should be terminated if they fail to sign a QB

But but Tomlin is a nice guy and you know the old cliche " nice guys finish last" In this case " nice guys have winning seasons but cant win a playoff game "

 

maybe, but to me he didnt owe them a damn thing after they kept him on the bench last year, unjustifiably and then brought in Wilson. One would have to be naive to think that he would get a fair shot in training camp againt Russell Wilson. Russ would’ve had to really crap the bed for KP to win the starting spot.

KP may not be starter material, he may flame out in cleveland, but the way we handled him was lousy. And I think other people around the league took notice.

 

Wilson refused to sign until someone guaranteed him a starting job. Next thing you know, he signs with the Steelers. There is more evidence and logic to that story than the false one you keep trying to push.

 

LOL. Speaking of folks swallowing the false narrative the Steelers leaked hook, line, and sinker.

 

We don't know how Pickett handled it. We know the made-up version jeh keeps posting and we know what the Steelers leaked trying to shift the blame for that disaster from themselves to Pickett.

Did he lose his temper and ask for a trade? I think so, but the Steelers deserve some of the blame for that. They let him have the tightrope surgery, then didn't give him the opportunity to take his job back. Then they didn't give him an opportunity to win it back the following training camp, handing the job to Wilson in the offseason. I'm not sure unprofessional is the appropriate word of Pickett respectfully asked to be traded in response, but we don't know the tone of those conversations. The Steelers should have told him to shut up and wait his turn. They would be better off right now if they still had Pickett to compete with Rudolph for the job instead of trying to sign what is left of Rodgers. They seem to keep pissing off key players, then are unable to talk them down. So much for Tomlin's ability to relate to players.

 

Tomlin said (after 2023 season):

“He [Pickett] will (get QB1 job back), but ultimately, there will be competition,” Tomlin said. “There’s always competition in this thing. We don’t anoint anyone. I’m appreciative of his efforts and where he is and excited to keep working with him, but certainly he will be challenged from a competition perspective moving forward. Competition brings out the best in us.”

Pickett said:

“I just thought it was time. It just felt like it was time from things that transpired,” Pickett said. “Wanted to get a chance to go somewhere else and continue to grow my career. The fact that it’s in Philly, the place that I found the love for the game. A great coaching staff, great players. Looking forward to meeting these guys in a couple weeks when everyone gets back in town. I think it’s an awesome opportunity to join this team.”

The Steelers 'don't hold hostages'. And they certainly didn't want to try to develop a QB as the franchise if he didn't want to be there.

Not sure how this can be made any clearer that KP was going to have to compete.

 

Wilson was the scapegoat here.

Tomlin is to blame for ALL OF OUR MESS. well, Rooney is ultimately to blame......for keeping Tomlin around so long.

A Smith it old had, old tricks, old school.

Russ would have been fine here in a 2nd year, with a RUNNING GAME, which he had NONE last year.

this offense SUCKS year in and year out and that is ON TOMLIN.


it SUCKS TO SUCK

 

He didn't ask for the trade when it was made clear he was going to have to compete. He asked for the trade after the team promised the job to Wilson, telling Pickett he wasn't going to get the opportunity to compete for the job in training camp.

 

It fits the story perfectly. Pickett was told he would have the opportunity to compete for the job, then that was taken away when they had to promise the job to Wilson to get him to sign.

 

Watch the clip from Hard Knocks with the Ravens talking about Wilson. They knew he couldn't do anything but throw deep down the sideline or dump it off, which made it very easy to defend him.

To be fair, Fields had similar limitations, so maybe part of it was Tomlin wanting the offense to avoid throwing over the middle, but Wilson had always avoided attacking the middle.

 

I have never argued that point. My argument is with the dubious notion that he ran from competition. He didn't. He asked out when it became clear he wouldn't have the opportunity to compete. It was a dumb decision on his part, but it was also foolish for the Steelers to give in so quickly rather than trying to work it out.

 

It was no surprise that they signed Wilson. There had been plenty of talk that the Steelers would sign Wilson or trade for Fields. Pickett didn't ask out when that was happening. He asked out when he found out that the Steelers promised the job to Wilson. That last bit is the part you ignore because you would rather troll that have a reasonable discussion.

 

No person in the Steelers org is quoted as saying Wilson had the starting job promised to him. You and/or the media made this up. Pickett bolted because he found out he would have to compete with Wilson, when he figured it would be Rudolph or some other lesser QB.

Tomlin said Wilson had the 'pole position' but that was two weeks after Pickett asked for the trade.

 

This I agree with.

When did all of this become canon?

 

Tomlin hid behind rhetoric and you are buying it. Laughable.

The Steelers got Wilson by promising him the starting job. That's why Pickett reacted to the signing and subsequent meeting with the team the way he did. He already knew he was likely to have to compete with Wilson before that. The team hadn't been quiet in its search for another quarterback.

 

If you think anybody here made up any of this stuff, you are out of touch with what has been going on with the Steelers. Why do you feel the need to insult other board members like this? It isn't anybody else's fault that you let the Steelers sucker you into believing a false narrative.

 

Aren't you the one that's fond of telling others that just because they keep repeating something doesn't make it true?

You've echoed this enough the past couple of days that I'm beginning to think I'm in a cave. If I come across jeh's math homework on one of the walls I'll know for sure.

 

I have also provided support for my claim. In addition to reporting at the time, there is the logic of it. Pickett knew they were going to make him compete for the job, regardless of who they brought in. It was only after they got Wilson to sign by promising him the job that he asked for a trade. That makes it clear that Pickett didn't run from competition. He asked to be traded when he was denied the opportunity to compete.

Honestly, I'm not even sure jeh believes what he is posting any more. He just likes to troll and find excuses to insult other posters. You might want to note that he is the one who keeps bringing this up, not me.

 

Well, how about this evidence:

or maybe this:

Or is this more rhetoric we should not believe? Or maybe we shouldn't believe Tomlin's rhetoric when he said Wilson had the pole position?

And I suppose the NYG guaranteed him to start as well?

"Yeah, I expect to be the starter and come in here and be ready to rock and roll every day," Wilson said via Zoom during his introductory news conference on Wednesday.

 

LOL You quoted Strackbein. Speaking of people who draw things out of thin air.

 

Every accusation is a confession with you. You are often rude and disrespectful to other posters. Unlike me, you have made no effort to alter that behavior. You can't admit you are wrong, so you just repeat the same falsehoods over and over again. At the very least, you insist on claiming that your opinions are facts. I will leave it to others to consider if that is a matter of insecurity. I prefer not to judge.

The reports of whether Wilson was guaranteed the job were conflicting, but a reasonable person would look at the timeline. Pickett expressed no issues with the team bringing in competition, including Wilson. He said nothing when they brought Wilson in for a visit the first time. It was only after he signed and the team met with him, which is when they would have told him that Wilson was the starter, that Pickett asked for a trade. Then the leaks started. There was no reason for Pickett's camp to leak anything, but the Steelers had a massive failure to excuse. They used a first-round pick on a quarterback, then gave him away for peanuts after only two seasons.

When the facts are in dispute, the best route is to consider the motivations of the parties involved. Or you can just stubbornly repeat accusations you can't support, likely to troll posters who disagree with you.

Neither side can prove what happened, but the evidence better supports my opinion. I don't expect you to admit as much, but you could try to handle the discussion in a civil manner. You choose not to do so. As to your odd refusal to post direct responses despite the fact that you are clearly responding to me, who am I to argue if you wish to fool yourself?

 

Some QB will get the introductory press conference honors, eventually, and that will be the starting quarterback for 2025.