AAron will be talking to the Steelers today

quit horsing around

 

where you left it

 

Back in the stick shift days I couldn’t find my car for days

I finally went back to the bar I had been at and there it was

Apparently I had enough sense to not drive home but I’m not sure how I did get home

So I went in and had a beer naturally

 

if history repeats itself, Steelers will sign Rodgers, and draft 2 QBs this year. The two rookies will win SBs with other teams, and in 2029, steelers will sign kirk cousins or baker mayfield to a one year deal.

On the plus side, Steelers will likely sign Pat Mahomes around 2036.

 

Damn right I took my cranky pills today!! People pining over an over the hill QB with an ego as big as the universe.

Ok I feel much better now

 

No one's arguing against that. It's about taking calculated risks. This year the lack of a 2nd round pick makes the idea of using #21 on presumably the QB3 of this class even riskier - their first-rounder this year is more valuable than normal because it's the only shot they have at a talent within the top 82 players.

 

Neeeeeigh

 

Expecting the steelers to develop someone like Milroe is not a winning proposition. Name one QB that the Steelers actually developed over the past 20 years.

 

They couldn’t even get Ben to play up to his ability

Although a lot of that was on Big Dumb

 

Why show a picture of Sarah Jessica Parker?

 

Who here is pining over Rodgers? He is a topic of discussion because the Steelers still have an offer out to him and he would be their starter if he takes it. Some of us are resigned to him being their best option for 2025, but I don't see anyone being excited about that. I have been posting for a while that they should pull the offer, but I'm not going to be pissed if he takes it.

 

Yes, wasted opportunity.

Cowher's wife's passing was tragic on it's own, and left a big leadership void in the org.

 

It's not as if Cowher was able to control him. The motorcycle accident happened while Cowher was the coach. In fact, it was after Cowher told him not to ride it to and from practice.

 

Conjecture. we will never know based on one data point during the off season on non football related advice. The offense was pretty freaking awesome in the previous playoff season and Ben fully listened to his coaches.

all we do know factually is that a lot was wasted during the actual seasons played after cowher left.

 

Whisenhunt and Haley developed Ben somewhat.

But tomlin himself has shown no inclination to develop or be patient with any rookie or young Qb

 

No, that isn't conjecture. It was widely reported that Cowher had a problem with Roethlisberger riding a motorcycle. The Steelers even warned him that he could be jeopardizing his contract by riding it if he got hurt. Those are facts, not speculation.

Roethlisberger wasn't nearly the passer under Cowher that he became under Tomlin. Roethlisberger behaved recklessly under Cowher. Supposedly, that was one reason why they let Plaxico Burress walk. They couldn't get those two to stop acting like knuckleheads together.

The conjecture is this dubious notion that Cowher would have gotten more out of Roethlisberger. The facts do not back that up.

 

You mean Ben got better with experience?

I don't know if he would have been better or not, but to say the facts don't back it up is not really apples to apples.

 

My point was more that Cowher didn't show some special ability to develop a quarterback with Roethlisberger and he certainly wasn't able to control his off-field behavior. It is amazing how much of this board is still hung up on Cowher over 20 years after he left.

 

Apparently you missed the Tommy Gunn experience!

 

Noll wouldve straightened Ben out and gotten the most out of him. If he could handle Bradshaw he could certainly deal with Ben.

 

Tweezer already said what’s needed to be said.

last I checked, a football player isn’t required to listen to a football coach on what mode of transportation to use.

the only fact that matters are the wasted years after cowher left.

 

The organization told Ben to stop riding the motorcycle IIRC, Ben was required to listen as long as he was under contract.

 

The QB spot obviously the hot topic and rightly so.
The team has found itself is a precarious predicament with only names like Mason Rudolph and Skylar Thompson as the only QB's under contract.
The frustration is that the team seems to place no sense of urgency to solve this issue.
Sure, they draft Kenny Pickett but did about everything possible to sabotage any possibility of success. No sense in rehashing that for the millionth time.
They missed on some opportunities. Those have been discussed ad nauseum.

So today, we have two QB's signed, and 2 open spots if the Steelers hold true to their habit of going to camp with 4 QB's (which isn't ideal, it should be solved)
I am fairly certain that Aaron Rogers is 1 of the likely additions and pretty sure a draft pick will be used.

Barring some sort of miraculin trade for Mahomes or Allen, I see no solution in sight in my humble opinion, which fans the flames of frustration.
Add some other ingredients:
-This mentality of 'Next man up' nonsense,
- Lackadaisical approach to even trying to ensure success (The WR bombs last year, the inexplicable logic of the Matt Canada experiment, OL woes etc....)
- Failure to level up from 'in the hunt' to an actual threat to go all the way. Ya gotta get players man, spend some money, take risks.

I don't foresee a trade for a QB and I don't really see a trade in the draft to get one which probably isn't bad this year.
I figure we're going to get through 2025 with Aaron at 41 and maybe make a playoff appearance.
So what's next?
I think they play for a solution is in 2026 as that seems to be where the resources are stacking.

This topic is beating a dead horse it seems. There's very few or maybe even no options available.

 

They were a mess in 1968 with some guy named Dick Shiner as Qb. Then Dan Rooney took the reigns and we know the rest.

maybe Art II needs to step aside for the next Rooney

 

That is an opinion, not a fact. In case you forgot, the team won a Super Bowl a couple of years after Cowher left, and made it back to one two years after that.

Some folks are suggesting that Cowher would have been able to get more out of Roethlisberger. He didn't want him riding the motorcycle and couldn't get him to stop. That demonstrates how little control Cowher had of Roethlisberger.