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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by CK 13, Mar 13, 2025 at 11:16 AM.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I just said I found it amusing you didn’t mention him leading up to our pick, not that you never spoke of him :lolol:

    It’s not embarrassing. They needed a QB and if Hamilton wasnt going to be the pick than I felt they need to take a swing on a QB regardless of who it was. I feel much the same way this year, especially without a 2nd round pick.

    You can ignore the countless arguments we had over Pickett if you like but thats where my true feelings lie about him. Of course you know this, this is just the way you are.

    But as I already pointed out, I felt with every QB needy team passing on them that we too should probably pass. They didn’t and the rest is history.
     
  2. Lambert

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    Yes, IDL, OL (OG and OT) and S. Oh, and CB and RB. Plus the minor little issue of not having a Quarterback. I've been on team OKAW but this is a disaster right now. Why are they giving up huge assets for a non top 10 WR when they have no clue who will be throwing him the ball and no means to fix that problem?
     
  3. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Steelers wrs are going to be very interesting with the 2 head cases we now have. Unsportsmanlike penalties for the win!
     
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  4. AskQuestionsLater

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    OKAW?!


    Don't think I know that one specifically.
     
  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Sure you did. Funny that you didn't think to post it then.
     
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  6. Thor

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    OmarKhanAndyWeidl
     
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  7. AskQuestionsLater

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    Ah... gotcha.


    Thanks man!! Very much appreciated! :steelflag::steelflag::steelflag:
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :lolol: Scribes big mad I called him out on his bs stunt.

    You know it tracks, why else would I have asked who was the best non QB available right before the pick.
     
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  9. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Blast is big mad because I reminded everyone that he wanted the Steelers to take one of the quarterbacks in 2022, and on draft day, he was perfectly happy with Pickett. The only other player he talk about wanting was a guy who they never had a shot at drafting. He also doesn’t like that he challenged my claim that I wanted Linderbaum and I was able to prove it.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Still copying me, you know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. As for the rest:

     
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  11. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Earlier in the thread, I wrote that I didn't remember you writing about wanting Hamilton because I didn't. You responded by saying you didn't remember me writing about wanting Linderbaum. It is using the poster's words against them in an argument. I think we both did it well. I acknowledge that you wrote about wanting Hamilton, but maintain it doesn't matter because the Steelers never had a shot at him. I found the evidence that I wrote about wanting Linderbaum. I also posted evidence that shows we were both fine with the Pickett selection even though he wasn't our first choice. I'm not sure what the crime is there, but I think that part of the discussion is best left to PM. I responded to yours. Before you take that the wrong way, I acknowledge that I started the PM conversation.

    I'm not sure either of us is correctly reading the other's emotional state. I was just tossing your words back at you just as you did to me earlier in the thread. The rest of my post was all true. In the 2022 thread, you did write that you would be happy with the Steelers taking one of the quarterbacks, including Pickett, before they took Pickett. Unless I missed it, the only other player you talked about wanting was Hamilton, who went six picks ahead of the Steelers' selection. You did question me saying I wanted them to take Linderbaum and I presented evidence of my posts about that.

    :shrug:
     
  12. HeinzMustard

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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Ok, let’s break these down from the top on what started this brouhaha.

    So this is you thinking you’re setting me up because you believed Willis was my top choice which I spoiled when I let you know Hamilton was my top guy. Willis was my favorite QB.

    This is you not liking I had someone other than Willis as my top pick for the first rd so you responded by basically calling me a liar.

    I responded by using your words against you by saying I do not remember you liking Linderbaum, I do remember you liking Pickett. You had been doing that to me for days so I thought it funny to turn it around on you.

    I did not know it would trigger you to dig up a thread to prove you like Linderbaum. This is where you story starts to fall apart.

    First of all, you were the one who first acted like I wasn’t being truthful about Hamilton but you went to prove you liked Linderbaum because apparently it bothered you so much but didnt think to acknowledge I actually did like Hamilton when you discovered that. Ok.

    I was in fact the only one to mention the guy I liked before our pick. But you didnt care to point that out even after your insinuation. Your first mention of Linderbaum at all came 16 pages after we took Pickett which is interesting.

    So having failed at that you then just decided to grab a quote of mine completely out of context and post it to the board with no ill intentions at all. Ok. You chose to completely ignore the countless arguments we had about Pickett leading up to the draft and just grabbed that quote thinking I must have somehow changed my mind after all the arguments and suddenly was a Pickett fan. It couldnt possibly be that the team needed a QB and I wanted them to walk away with one, I didnt care what rd, just that they grabbed one. Can’t hit a HR if you don’t swing. He was on the bottom of my list and he was there solely because of the talk of him being pro ready which if he was, that would obviously be good for the Steelers. Playing next store to the Steelers I was also hopeful that Tomlin and Colbert knew more about him than anyone else.

    Hamilton was my top guy, Willis was my top QB, was not a fan of Pickett and had major concerns about him but was hoping the analysts were right and recognized the Steelers needed to walk away with someone in that draft.

    Right before our pick I began having doubts they should take one at all since no one else was picking them with those doubts kicking up with the flurry of teams right before our pick that needed a QB and still passed on them which was why I asked who else was available.

    You know I felt they over drafted Pickett and that he would have dropped out of the first because we fought about that right after the draft and have done so to this day.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    No, that was not me setting you up. That was me asking you a question because all I remembered was you going on and on about Willis.

    No, I did not call you a liar. I genuinely didn't remember you posting about Hamilton. To me, that was not relevant. That's why I brought up the comparison to Hutchinson. Neither guy was going to be available when the Steelers picked. That was obvious before the draft started. I was surprised Hamilton fell to 14. He wasn't making it to 20.

    I went looking through the 2022 draft thread to find what I wrote about Linderbaum, which I eventually found on other threads. When I went looking through the thread, I saw you posted that you wanted Willis, but you would be happy with any of the four quarterbacks. That included Pickett. That was before the pick. After the pick, you were at pretty much the same place I was. He wasn't your first choice for the pick, but you were okay with the pick. I still don't see how that one post by another poster that you think I should have included adds any context that is necessary.

    I wasn't ignoring our arguments about Pickett. I was pointing out that your criticisms of the pick were hindsight. If that is ill intent, then every time you have called me out for posting something you claimed was hindsight was also ill intent. I don't see any of that as nefarious. It's just part of debating stuff on a message board. Our posts live on.

    If that's how you say you felt about the Pickett pick, fine, but that was not reflected in your posts at the time. You are asking me (and us) to take your word for it. How can you ask that when you refuse to take my word regarding my intent on this thread? If you can't give trust, what makes you think it is fair for you to ask for it?
     
  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    This is the only thing worth addressing, the rest is just going in circles.

    You’re flat out wrong. Safety’s are not drafted high, they aren’t even drafted in the first rd. Before Hamilton you have to go back to 2019 draft to find a safety taken in the first rd and both of them went after pick 20.

    Add into the fact that Hamilton was considered a hybrid player and also ran a 4.59 there was every chance he could have been there at 20. The fact he got to 14 shows you misjudged the position.
     
  16. FeartheBeard

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    She is obsessed with her little brother lol
     
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