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Controversial, but Omar Khan and possibly Tomlin should be terminated if they fail to sign a QB

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by ThrowToHeath, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yes, I am surprised by the lack of aggression given the amount of cap space they had.

    Technically free agency is only into 48 hours, still moves that could be made.
     
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  2. Formerscribe

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    I keep coming back to the axion: Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The perfect quarterback option wasn't available, but there were good ones. There were certainly better options than being where they are now, waiting on that jackass Aaron Rodgers to make up his mind with a very good chance he signs elsewhere. I'm not at all excited about him being their quarterback, but if they don't get him, this offseason is a failure.
     
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  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    True, but most of the good pieces are gone. Getting Juszczyk would help. Getting Rodgers would help. Kupp isn't gong to happen. He wants way too much. I don't understand not getting defensive line help.
     
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  4. Karl

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    I am personally, cautious as to what is left.
    Taking into consideration that this is not a Super Bowl roster yet.
    But make some good ones
     
  5. HeinzMustard

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    Does it really matter who the QB is this year? I don't think so. Steelers are on the road to nowhere.
     
  6. SGSteeler

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    No. They don't HAVE to have a great option this season. I'd rather them look to the draft again than tie this franchise (and its money) to over priced scrubs that are going to do just enough to keep us from sucking.

    I'm not sure Pickett was over drafted, but he certainly sucked as a starting QB in the NFL. That wasn't Khan's doing, but Tomlin and Colbert's. The end of KC's era as a drafter was horrendous (though I think every subsequent year Tomlin has gotten a bigger say in the direction of the franchise). I am fine with rolling with Warren as the starter (we will draft one and Gainwell was a good enough #2 RB to help Philly win the SB), he's earned a shot at starting here and our previous starter earned his way out of town with his play on the field. We very obviously are planning on passing some since we just signed a WR to a massive deal after trading for him.... We just have to draft the guy we think is going to get them the ball.

    Mason was a 3rd rounder, but that isn't the point. We need back ups too. We only had one on the roster.

    I think that Khan has been fine to start out. He wasn't given the keys to a great situation. A team with no QB, a roster full of aging stars, a bad OL, and a recent history of draft busts in 5 of the previous 7 years with our first pick (including Claypool in this as he was our top pick, just a second rounder). Outside of Watt (obviously a huge hit), our best player we drafted in the other 6 drafts was Najee Harris. Not good at all. Give him and Weidl some time to turn the roster over and take a shot at a QB before we judge them too harshly... As for Tomlin, he should've been let go at the end of 2023. However, our ownership is so afraid to make a hard decision (or god forbid have a down year) that we kept the status quo in hopes that we eke out another 9 win season. He's been instrumental in the slow decline of this franchise, and it is time for us to go another direction. We do a good job finding good young head coaches. We've missed out on a few of them hanging onto nostalgia with Tomlin. Lets find that next guy soon.
     
  7. Formerscribe

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    Gainwell somehow managed to average less than four yards per carry as a third-down back behind the best line in the league. Unless you have a superstar like Barkley carrying most of the load, no, Gainwell is not a viable. No. 2 back. The Steelers need to add another one.

    Pickett was doing what they told him to do. If you take away a young quarterback's aggressiveness, that's what you get.
     
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  8. RichD

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    Kahn should go after Skenes ! I bet that guy could throw a football plus he is tall and smart.
     
  9. Robert

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    A lot of good points in this thread.

    I see a few folks are pointing fingers at Khan. I just don't think that is deserved. He comes in and has to overcome a lot. The team was in disarray with no franchise QB, a terrible oc, and a winning coach with 15ish years of history as a head coach on the team. Changing all of that is not a project that is going to be done quickly.

    I feel that he is getting the team on a better trajectory. We do have holes that need filled. But don't confuse good enough with perfect. What do we really lack to be a playoff team? On offense, we need a QB, a RB, and a bit of o line help. On defense, we need a run stopper, a cb, and someone in the secondary? Supposedly this is a great draft for RBs and defense.

    A lot of players can make a team better. But I look at the eagles and what really seemed to make them great was about 9 players. The o line and the d line. They dominated all season. It obviously took more than just those players, but what they did allowed a lot of other spots to be not as good. With the quarterback being the single most important position to the game, the defense brought constant pressure on the opposing quarterback and the offense gave Hurts all the time in the world.

    I think that as fans, we sometimes get all tied up too much in specific individual positions. We worry too much about a receiver, or a corner...etc. IMO, we need a solid o line and a solid d line. That should be the cores that our team is built around. Everything else adds to that. But without having those positions as a bulwark to build around, we are kind of just spending on Wheels in the sand.
     
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  10. Karl

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    Unless you don't count all the times he sold dope disguised as a nun...
    lol... Just kidding.

    I personally, don't want to fire him after just 3 years. He's on the warning track though.
    He's done some boners but still under the cloak of Colbert.
    He doesn't need fired, but he is a weaker GM in the league.
    I'm all for moving on and hoping he gets better with time.
    But to be clear, stronger GM's would have taken the job and look at the team and realized immediately 'we need a QB.' (of course Kenny was a swing and a miss and they totally mess that up top down... everyone owns that blame.)
    The cap aint all that either..... again, it's not the worst.
    Then there's the 'who's really to blame' mystery. Some say Tomlin does everything, some say the owner, some might even blame the waterboy.

    The Steelers need a QB, that's a glaring fact.
    It's like being in a room with 12 angry grizzlies. You sort of notice that.
    I'm hoping they come up with a solution.
     
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  11. Vox Ferrum

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    The OP suggested firing Omar over picking Kenny, that was Colbert. MT, well let's agree and put the pins back on our noses. I think the biggest issue with Omar right now is the MT, the GM when hired should have the freedom to bring in his own choice, MT was going no where.
     
  12. mcam

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    they drafted for need when they drafted Pickett. Most analysts didn't believe he was going to be a franchise starter along with many QBs in that class. It turns out they were right.

    As it appears the same for this year's draft
     
  13. Born2Steel

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    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GainKe00.htm


    Just adding context.
     
  14. SteelersFanIrl

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    I think you have to give the front office more time. I believe that they wanted to hold on to Fields, but not at any cost. Another team was willing to pay more. It happens

    There was no path to finding their long term starter this offseason. It’s a poor draft class and there really wasn’t anyone in free agency that you’d hitch your wagon to with a big contract. It looks like they are stocking up on compensatory picks and targeting next years draft to find a QB. They should be allowed to execute that plan.

    They have made some good picks in recent years and I like the way the team is being built. The roster was really bad after Colbert left and it was never going to be a quick fix
     
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  15. Steelpens65

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    A debacle I say… a debacle
     
  16. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Our WR situation last year should have been cause for termination.
     
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  17. Confluence

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    Argument over, they already signed their QB,

    Mason Rudolph


    If Rogers decides to play here that's icing on the cake, he better have superbowl in his sights for amount of money we would be paying him
     
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  18. Robert

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    Obviously we are not privy to what goes on behind closed doors. But, I would not be shocked at all (and expect it actually) to find that a 'winning' coach with the length of being in that position that MT has, has given MT an oversized say on all things related to the Steelers. I would bet that MT does get his way on most things that he wants. Omar was saddled with Colbert and his who can guess what he was thinking picks, an extraordinarily bad OC in Canada, and a strong willed coach with 15ish winning years of tenure. Yes, Omar is the GM....but he is still going to have to build his creds before he can really gain the trust from the owners that allows him to go forth and do great things despite what MT might want in those cases where there is a difference of opinion.
     
  19. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Looking like Jamesis Winston will be our starting qb… unreal
     
  20. Charlie4545

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    Who's going to throw the ball to Metcalf?? Rudolph is a back up quarterback!!!
     
  21. JKLTO

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    I agree, except I'd say he should have been gone in 2011. Ben might have won another SB or two with a competent HC and staff.
     
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  22. SWSteel

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    Completely agree. Kinda felt Mike has to be the smartest person in the room n hard knocks did not dispel thar belief n he's actually over his head n stuck in past
     
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  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    In Rudolphs defense, DJ started producing much better after Rudolph took over. He can get the ball to Metcalf and Pickens. His best trait is the deep ball which fits with those guys.
     
  24. CJ12

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  25. Formerscribe

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    I'm not sure I buy that and I don't think anybody should or will be fired today, but a bad season should put Khan's job on jeopardy. Ultimately, it is his job to acquire players. He failed when he left the Steelers a gaping hole at wide receiver last offseason. He has failed far worse this year. Despite ample cap room, he has gotten little help and only a backup at quarterback. I think it is more a matter of refusing to budge off the numbers they want to offer players and that approach has let them to what looks like failure.
     

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