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steelers once again ranked near the bottom

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mac daddyo, Feb 26, 2025 at 12:39 PM.

  1. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  2. Thor

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    Reflective of the product on the field of late: mostly average, a couple of bright spots (training staff, HC, travel), a couple not so bright (locker room, ownership).

    Also, how do you score an F- in a category? Arizona's locker room must have a sewage leak. Maybe Art II could improve his ownership grade and offer them some duct tape to patch it.
     
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  3. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    My God this Rooney is awful can he please go away.
     
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  4. SteelLion69

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    We are running on a bald tire defense, missing key lug nuts on offense, have terrible alignment, and driven by negligent coach that doesn't 'live in his fears'.

    Eventually the wheels are going to fall off on this team due to being cheap on preventive coaching and facilities maintenance.

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  5. Lambert

    Lambert Well-Known Member

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  6. Brice

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    Check this article out about how upset the players are about the Strength and Conditioning coaches the Steelers hired last year. Hopefully this may force Art to actually fire someone this offseason. Their Strength and Conditioning coaching was ranked dead last or next to dead last in every category. How can people not get fired over this???


    Steelers' Mike Tomlin Put on Blast for Coaching Staff Hire - Heavy Sports
    After Matusz’s first season in Pittsburgh, the Steelers dropped to last in the league in the strength coaches category on the NFLPA report card.

    “Under Matusz, the Steelers implemented a new pre-training camp conditioning test beat writers would later say was unlike anything they had seen before in Latrobe. Part of the test required all players, including quarterbacks, to push a sled. Russell Wilson suffered a calf injury during the rest, one that would linger throughout the summer and cause him to miss the first six games of the 2024 season.”

    Kozora also noted the Steelers had a lot of soft tissue injuries toward the end of the season. While Wilson’s injury didn’t really hurt Pittsburgh’s record, the injuries in December helped contribute to the team’s five-game losing streak to end the campaign.

    “Just 75% of players reported that they received individualized training plans for their strength coaching staff, which ranked 31st out of 32 teams,” Magdziuk wrote. “Meanwhile, their report that the strength team contributes ‘slightly’ to their overall success graded dead last.”


     
  7. thorn058

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    NFLPA survey: please rate the team you play for based on your opinion of all the free stuff they should be providing you beyond your base pay of 900,000 dollars. Don't let your answers be colored by how much money we as a union are stealing from you or will be stealing from you or how we will bend over backwards to allow the owners and league potential screw you over. Remember these are billionaires who should be providing you as much free stuff as you can carry.
     
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  8. thorn058

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    you are talking about the same sports league that will admit on Mondays and Tuesdays that they got calls wrong that impacted the game and their solution is to rate the crew at the end of the season to see if they should be given the opportunity to screw up during the playoffs.
     
  9. Voice of Reason

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    Couldn’t agree more - three of the six factors listed in the article have nothing to do with the product on the field (childcare, cafeteria, and travel accommodations).

    I guess some of you haven’t dealt with unions. If the survey includes questions about some of the above items, then management / ownership is not going to be painted in a positive light.

    It sounds more like a survey on “how well do you think you are being treated and what are you missing”. I am sure the union will use it as leverage against ownership for concessions, additional free things, etc.
     
  10. 86WardsWay

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    I imagine old time football players look at these ratings and shake their heads.
     
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  11. SteelerJJ

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    The eagles got a D+ for the locker room and a F for the training facility. I wonder if this is overblown?
     
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  12. 86WardsWay

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    Winning the Super Bowl seems to be more important than daycare and cafeteria facilities. Who would have thunk it?
     
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  13. Steelrules

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    Why can’t we have a Mark Davis, Gayle Benson or Shadid Kahn as an owner. We have to wallow in the mud with the likes of the Glazers, Hunts and Krafts
     
  14. Steelvision

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    I dont know if players care as much about that as they do contracts and winning culture.

    but we dont seem to have the latter anymore. Were sort of like the Packers in 1982. Its been a long time since we’ve done anything. The only reason we havent had a losing season is because of Ben and the talented players we’ve kept bringing in.
     
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  15. mac daddyo

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    more to the plot. says the steelers didn't study enough.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...S&cvid=d50e182e516a43c6a4100733b80a983b&ei=13

    i guess doing the same thing is OK though. insanity? different results? cowhers players? usually where there is smoke. walks like a duck, quacks like a duck. what the heck has happened to this team? MT, art2. i hate seeing this stuff, but it's not far from what many have said or thought. not a conspiracy theory when it is found to be true.

    :cool:
     
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  16. Karl

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    This kind of reflect more on the type of players the Steelers are choosing, they aren't dedicated.

    But there is something to be said when a guy like Matt Canada was even allowed to advance to Offensive Coordinator. Players could not buy into that system, and it costs us a QB.. as well as some other players.

    Players have to believe they can win.

    Still, I take very little from either article. The Steelers are not a broken-down organization as they have some many seasons over .500 - Now I know that is being used against the team and there is something to be said for that since playoff victories are not there. Still, it could be worse, like the Browns.

    Like the team players, you should always be on the lookout for an upgrade on the coaching staff. There were several staffs dumped where some good positions coaches got thrown out with the wash... Omar, Tomlin did nothing. I hated so much that Robert Saleh was out there and nothing stirred. Yes, he wanted to go back to the 49ers (great franchise) but you should have made it a difficult decision for him. Saleh is a huge upgrade over Austin.

    That's the stuff that rubs me.
     
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  17. Born2Steel

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    The only part of this that matters to me is the availability of equipment and rehab facilities.

    These players are not required to use their team facilities, and according to the CBA, are not permitted within the facility during certain times of the year. Both mandated by the NFLPA during CBA negotiations.

    This may seem unfair to ask an owner to pay for facilities and equipment that players may not even want to make use of, or are even allowed the use of all year. But it's my opinion it's still the owners responsibility to make these things available when useable, and up to date.


    I wonder if this is effected at all by the proximity of the university.
     
  18. steel machine

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    I feel terrible that people under 35 making millions for playing a sport and sometimes just sitting on a bench don't have good daycare or a decent cafeteria. Oh the horror!!
     
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  19. Steelvision

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    To your first point, to me its not only on the players. Its on the coaches. A coach cant make players practice or study on their own time but he can advise and create that culture; like tell them “look, if you want to be great, or to get where you need to get or we need to get, you need to do this” and you reward them with playing time, better contracts, etc…i think coaches like Noll or Belichek did that, maybe Tomlin not so much (Ben wasnt the most studious guy, but maybe a different coach drives him to be even greater. I’m not talking motivation per se, cause that wasnt Noll’s thing, but telling them this is what needs to be done to be successful…
     
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  20. AtlSteel

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    The hole is getting deeper. Desperately need new ownership. Everyone is starting to smell the fish.
     
  21. Thor

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    I get it, but it's worth noting that the NFL has become a corporate cash cow. And the majority of players never get close to seeing the kind of money the owners and execs make (the top 10 Steeler salaries - less than 20% of the roster - will account for 60% of the team's cap this year).

    Given that and the brutal nature of the sport, I tend to be more sympathetic on drop-in-the-bucket issues like these.
     
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  22. Wardismvp

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    May I also add, coaches must also devise plans to put players in a position to be successful. Playing Minka 20 yds from LOS is not the way.
    Not throwing to a 6' 7" 280 pd TE in the redzone against a 6' 185 cb is not putting the TE in a position to succeed. You get my drift?
     
  23. Steel_Elvis

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    Ahhh… but you’ve got to think strategically. The opponent will be expecting you to exploit your matchup advantage, but they’ll never expect you to attack their strength.
     
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  24. Karl

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    Agree,,,, that was my second point. A guy like Matt Canada set things back 20 years.
     
  25. 86WardsWay

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    Meanwhile the Rooneys are still stuck in the 70’s. Mike Tomlin is on his pension plan and our defense is finished by game 12. But hey the standard is the standard.
     
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