Will Allen on the Steelers problems in 2012

People who defend BA do so with an armful of PRODUCTION.
People who defend Haley do so with an armful of PREDICTION.

Is DS "Hollywood Playboy" from other boards? I am certain it is him, because Playboy was very much a no-nonsense, quantitaive thinker. And that's fine. But there are always caviats and contexts for just about everything. So I will work with the quantitative.

Arians has nine years as an OC and HC. Haley has six. Here's how "productive" their units are:

Arians: Win %: .584, Off Rank: PPG: 18.3 / YPG: 18.0, Avg. QBR: 76.08
Haley: Win %:.479 win %, Off Rank: PPG: 16.67 / YPG: 16.83, Avg. QBR: 87.2

Advantage Haley. He's been a more productive OC. By Shiner's standard, these numbers prove it. I'm not sure where this argument comes from or where it's going, but the idea that we're "worse off" under Haley is hogwash.

 

hey, Bobby: Steeler Glenn wanted me to pass along a message thats he's still alive and well.

 

Guilty conscience ? Wow! You attended nine games last year I guess that either makes you rich or you live in or near The Burgh. Either way I guess that makes you a bigger fan than me. Heck I guess that might make you the biggest fan ever. Unless of course someone went to ten. For your information I played 7 yrs of semi - pro here in NY, but maybe nothing outside the state of Pennsylvania counts either. I never quit on a coach ,especially between the lines because I would never quit on myself. It's embarassing and a shame you would admit to such. You are the one who decided to take what I said personally and put my words in quotes....... Take a deep breath, maybe count to ten......it's not that serious.

 

Yeah it's actually funny how long these brackets became. In summation a few people miss BA. A few (including the Rooney's) do not.

 

No. THIS is a Psycho.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me-VhC9ieh0

 

Hey 12to88 are you Glenn's alter ego who is here just to find out what people are doing when we don't think you are watching? LOL.

 

WELL,
some of us know him as YO CREEPO

 

...or Pittsburgh75

 

NO TTF!!! THEY'RE SOOOOO CHARMING!!! LOL.

 

No, he contacted me via eBay and wanted me to pass that note along. Biz was on this thread, so it was an impulse to do it here rather than a private message.

 

Holy smokes...how do people know/remember this? Impressive.

 

And yes Dick, is the infamous HPB from the old time boards, so YOU nailed that one.

Uh-oh, here comes another one of those quotes in quotes in quotes things I was talking about.

 

I'd hate to see it eliminated because it is useful. But sometimes it gets hard to follow along and it gets impossible on a mobile. It gets to where each line in a single letter and you're scrolling for minutes to get to the end.

 

You always tell the story of going to SB X as a kid, so that's how I remember.
Same story, Different S/N = same guy

 

I tried to look on here from a blackberry a couple of days ago and it said my ip address was banned. What's that about?

 

Ok. I will after Dallas goes off. LOL. I'm fixing to start it on my dvr so I can skip the commercials.

 

I think some of them tried... God forbid if it actually worked!!!
Regardless.... LMAO!!!! I LOVE THIS BOARD!!!
This thread reminds me of some of the debates between Deljick, and TheStallWorthSwann...
well spoken arguments, on both sides, but, this time we have DickShiner and TomlinEra, Vs. Jack Attack, and BFT!!!
(With kudos to Strummerfan, the steeldeal, and a few others for chiming in )
Great reading, up until the quotes become damn near a whole page long, in single letter lines... hahahahaha...
At least we now have an active administrator, who has promised to look into a fix for that! (Thanx, "Towelie... )
Although it turned into a great debate about Bruce vs. Haley, I really didnt have a problem with what Will Allen originally said.
I saw no disrespect in it, whatsoever... Just an honest answer to what he was asked..
Go ahead, look back at the very beginning of this thread for a link to it, because I don`t feel like doing it for ya... hahahaha...
GO STEELERS!!!

 

Just for the record Tomlin_Era is one of my very best friends on this board and will continue to be. It's just on this one issue that we disagree. But I'm sure by this point next year he'll come around. LOL.

 

Haha! Huh? WTF?!?! Am I the only one that looks at the 'tale of the tape' and doesn't see 'Advantage Haley?!' I'll take the winning percentage, offensive ranking, points per game, and yards per game numbers that are all in Arians favor. I guess QBR is EVERYTHING to you?! "We were 0-16 but, hey, check out our QBR!"

And did you really include Arians years in Cleveland? C'mon, man!! Anything you can do to skew the numbers, right? Can you copy and paste a photo of Kelly Holcomb and Dennis Northcut next to photos of Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald while you're at it just so everyone knows what hands these OC's were dealt?