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Give Khan his gold star for 2025 dead cap money. Ranked lowest in the league at $45,335

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Brice, Feb 22, 2025.

  1. Brice

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    I have been upset with Khan on numerous issues, but I have to tip my hat to him for getting the Steelers to have the least dead money on their Payroll.

    2025 NFL Team Salary Cap Tracker

    I was surprised to see the Eagle with the most dead cap at $59.9 million. This will probably be why the Eagles are not a Dynasty. When you are spending $60 million for players that are not on your team you are in trouble.

    Wow, $45, 335 is just so far under most teams is just crazy. You have to add another ZERO, to get to the 2nd lowest team, and then you have to add another ZERO to get to the 4th lowest team the Chiefs at $2,084,515.

    I guess the Steelers coaching style of not firing people until their contract expires, is the same as their Player style, of not releasing players until their contracts have expired.
     
  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    matt canada says hi. :cool:
     
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  3. mytake

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    This tells me the Steelers don't have enough good players worth paying. Khan and Weidl have work to do. Tomlin needs to get out of the kitchen, but we know that is not going to happen.
     
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  4. jeh1856

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    This makes zero sense

    Are you suggesting dead cap in anyway shape or for is good
     
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  5. mytake

    mytake Well-Known Member

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    No, I am saying if the Steelers draft picks in general over the last five years were good enough to get second contracts the Steelers would have more dead money, because they would have to cut or restructure contracts. The other reason is the Steelers have not had to pay for the $40 million QB over the past 3 seasons.
     
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  6. Brice

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    I am lost... What does a $40 million QB have to do with Dead Cap Space? Do you think Denver eating all of Russell Wilson's money in dead cap was a good thing for the Broncos?

    Dead Cap is more about guessing wrong on Players, than anything else. Signing players to contracts they don't deserve and then giving them money when you have to admit you were wrong for ever signing them in the 1st place.

    I love to bash on Khan, but on this 1 particular item, he is totally kicking ass. All the Steelers money is on the Field. Is that a line from Moneyball???
     
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  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    when we had to kick the can down the road with ben and a few others, we are finally down the road.

    of course we have no QB, lost a starting RB, lost a starting LT, lost a starting CB, only have one good starting WR that will need paid, lost a starting guard, are losing both backup QB's. that is a lot of holes to fill. when you have to start cutting guys that are not effective anymore or need more cap money to improve positions, that is when we will start to see some dead money creep back in. our offense besides wilson was one of the youngest in the league for awhile. as we fill these holes it may creep back up. putting the money on the field is one thing but the quality of what you put on the field has to go hand in hand. :cool:
     
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  8. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Kahn's strongest point has always been with numbers, that is why Weidl was hired,
    plus to rein in MT in the draft process. Rooney's didn't put the proverbial all the chickens in one basket
    with Tomlin, there are actually checks and balances when it comes to the draft/player selection.
    Here is hoping Weidl and company hit a home run in 2025 draft. God knows we need it.
     
  9. Vox Ferrum

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    Dynasty is yet to be attained, but to go to 3 SB's (winning 2) in 8 years is impressive. They have the talent in all phases to be in that competition for a couple more years. How they manage the CAP can (and likely will) be an issue in the not too distant future, but right now they have one of the best front offices in the NFL. Draft, trade, FA pick ups, development, replacing departing coach's. I'd take that over what we have produced in the same period.
     
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  10. Vox Ferrum

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    Every business had a P and L statement, IDK exactly where and/or how each team figures dead money in their CAP management, but you are going to have it, you miss on some players, injuries, re-structures to get you in a place to sign others. In a perfect world blah blah, but the business of the NFL is a continual flux. The management of the CAP is different among the teams, but ultimately it all comes due.
     
  11. CK 13

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    I believe Khan and Weidl have done a solid job so far sans the receiver position last season. But I also don't blame either for the Aiyuk situation. I'm glad he stayed in SF.
    And really why would a top flight Receiver want to come here except for the money? With Arthur Smiths conservative game plan in which Bags Tomlin loves living in his turnover fears. They want to Run run run and when its 3rd and 9 then throw.

    So they will look to the draft a receiver in the 1st or 2nd to replace Pickens after the 2025 season.
     
  12. Thor

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    Dead money tends to ebb and flow. Right now the Steelers don't have much because the offense has a lot of youth and vets on short-term deals; the defense is older and has more money tied up, but they haven't had to make any difficult decisions with it yet.
     
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  13. steelersrule6

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    They have the highest paid defense and most of their players on offense are on rookie contracts :facepalm:.
     
  14. mytake

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    And how has the highest paid defense work out this past season?:facepalm:
     
  15. jeh1856

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    8th best defense
     
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  16. jeh1856

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    Neither restructuring or paying a QB creates dead cap

    Dead cap only comes from letting a player go while still having contract money on future years

    Dead cap is wasted money it is never a good thing
     
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  17. Brice

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    It is also because those stupid Voidable Years that teams are adding to the end of the contract to spread the signing bonus. When the Salary portion ends those voidable years that have been added to the back end become Dead Cap, because the player is no longer under contract


    Damn, it looks like the Eagles are also at the top of the Void Years list for 2025. The Eagles have the most deadcap space for 2025, and the most money tied up in Void Years. I would say the future looks very dark for the Eagles staying on top. $390 million and the team in 2nd is only at $204 million; that is National Debt accounting stuff.

    upload_2025-2-24_10-21-40.png .
     
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  18. bleednblackngold

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    Not sure why you'd be surprised the Eagles are the highest. They've been kicking the can down-the-road for the last 5 years. If they weren't one of the highest, I'd wonder what kind of shenanigans they were pulling. That said,it worked to get them a championship so Howie Roseman looks like a genius GM.
     
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  19. Ytownsteeler

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    Great job....now we can go spend some more cap money on crappy d that quits and cant tackle .
     
  20. nor

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    where's SteelHack? He was always sharp on this kind of stuff.
     
  21. jeh1856

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