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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mac daddyo, Feb 11, 2025.

  1. Brice

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    Agreed. As far as I know not a single coach has been fired. Maybe I just need to realize, nothing will change until they actually do get rid of Mike Tomlin.
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Tomlin doesn't sign the checks Art ll does, they let two coaches leave who contracts expired.
     
  3. CK 13

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    I'm sitting here wondering why Dan "Less" Moore couldn't play the right tackle position if natural position means nothing...
     
  4. Brice

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    Some guys can't play Left or Right. :)

    Funny, I was watching Noah Strackbeins report, and he pointed to Dan Moore as Pat Meyers biggest success story. Yeah, Pat Meyer you go hang your hat on Dan Moore's NFL career.
     
  5. Thor

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    This may explain a lot.
     
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  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Lazy Day

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    This explains a lot on where you get some of your off the wall machination theories. Foolish me I was believing these were your own thoughts.
     
  7. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Lazy Day

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    Exactly
     
  8. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    maybe that percentage means something else in the baseball world. so when brice say's 9.4% of baseball players are switch hitters, it's not really about batting.:shrug::eek:;):cool:
     
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  9. thorn058

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    The first play they look at whoever is the run game coordinator should be chewing out the TE coach and going after Pruitt because if a Raven has beat the Olineman and gotten to 22 before he can even start going, maybe just maybe you should block him instead of bypassing him and getting out in space to block nobody. It also demonstrates rather definitively how unprepared they were since Jones doesn't identify his primary responsibility and tries chipping in on McCormick's man which is why he ends up off balance. All season long guys were missing clear blocks because they didn't know who they had.
     
  10. Michael E

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    Whew, crisis averted. Good thing we kept Meyers. He thinks outside the box. No other OL coach incorporates his own OL blocking each other or simply allowing a middle DL free rush at QB. It's brilliant. It's so unexpected, the other team simply stops playing for a second or two, bewildered.

    Genius. Between Meyer and Rooney, we have the potential to have thinking just above total flat-line. Love me some Meyer-ball.
     
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  11. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Now that's some funny stuff, you had me laughing out loud with your post.
     
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  12. Jball

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    I said this before, and you couldn't always tell who messed up. I know that Jones played much better playing next to Daniels, than when his two closest line mates were rookies.
     
  13. Brice

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    Name me another team that ended the season on a 5 game losing streak and kept their Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator and Defensive Coordinator???

    (I have done no research on this yet)
     
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  14. mac daddyo

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    the first play goes off the tracks because jones steps towards mccorrmick and steps on his foot. many don't notice that which starts the whole chain of events.:cool:
     
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  15. forgotten1

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    Browns
    Titans
     
  16. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    And all three of those guys are under contract for 2025, you really think Art is going to fire all of them and pay them to sit at home :rolleyes:.
     
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  17. Madmike77

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    I’m not a huge Meyer fan. But Fautanu looked decent in a limited sample size. Frazier looked great. McCormick was ok - which isn’t horrible given where he was drafted. Moore is Moore - some good, some bad. The guy has become a better tackle than I thought he’d ever be. Seumalo took a step back, but he was already a developed piece before he came to Meyer.

    That leaves Jones. His issues doesn’t seem to be technique as much as just not being on the same page as everyone else. Missed snap counts, missed assignments, sprinkled with the odd good play. I’m beginning to worry Jones’ issues are just Jones being Jones. Hopefully not though.
     
  18. Brice

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    I was hoping for Austin to be gone, with Art forcing Mike Tomlin to actually bring in a real DC.

    Why can't the Steelers Fire bad coached like Pat Meyers?
     
  19. Brice

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    The biggest problem with players under Pat Meyers is that they seem to get worse every year playing under Meyers. Broderick Jones best year was his rookie year. Last year he seemed to get worse playing under Pat Meyers. I am not surprised at all the Seumalo took a big step backwards under Pat Meyers.

    They talk about the increase the NFL seems to expect for 2nd year players, here in Pittsburgh there seems to be a major step backwards for players playing under Pat Meyers in the 2nd year.
     
  20. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Because of $$$$$$$$$$$$
     
  21. jeh1856

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    Pat Meyer

    Google is your friend
     
  22. jeh1856

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    It’s actually much more than that

    It’s not mostly money but I’m sure that is a factor
     
  23. mac daddyo

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    as i've said before, meyer wasn't a bad OL coach. he has had success. matching the player to the scheme is not really on the OL coach when it's out of his control. he has to pretty much work with what they give him. some players just don't evolve in certain schemes. as i have said fautanu and jones are better pass blockers than run blockers and we have put them into a run heavy offense. moore was a better run blocker than pass blocker. it will take time. i do want to see what cook and nester may bring. i'd still bring scharping back on the interior as well. :cool:
     
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  24. Michael E

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    Rookies have very little time to be impacted, for good or bad, by a coach. Any rookie that comes in and does well is through their own hard work and years prior work. I expect 1st round OL to start immediately and play well, maybe not pro-bowl level well, but they should hold their own and look the part.

    2nd round and lower, okay, now maybe not starting right away and maybe expectations are mediocrity, but not turnstiles either.

    As other noted, the key is to see if they progress or regress. Regression is nearly all on the coaching 2nd year onward. Sure, player can get his rookie deal and eat 5 dozen donuts a day in the off-season, i get it.

    Meyer's job is to get the unit to play cohesively, to appear to have actually practiced...alot. To seemingly know the plays and having OL chip others blocks where needed, heads on a swivel if they DON'T have a primary assignment on any given play.

    Under Meyer I ahven't see the OL look like their progressing or prepared. Every game there are head-scratching plays, that makes me wonder if Meyer is a bad coach or just indifferent and they aren't really coached much at all.

    We know why he remains, he's still under contract and Rooney hates to pay a coach to go away. So we'll see how Tomlin (don't much care for his judgement) and Rooney think about Meyer this time next year.

    I can only hope Meyer somehow helps one OL and manages to avoid negative impact on the others. Let Fautanu be Fautanu, don't move him around or coach the good out of him an replace it with the same garbage others with regression have shown.
     
  25. Wardismvp

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    If he truly wanted to win he would.
     
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