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Will Troy F Be Ready

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by DJ18Baller, Feb 6, 2025 at 8:34 AM.

  1. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    For training camp this year? Has anyone heard any updates on his knee issue? Would be like getting an additional #1 this season.
     
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  2. Thor

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    https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/troy-fautanu-player

    From January 13:
     
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  3. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Man he looked super raw as a rookie...it is going to be a long road for him to get out on the field with the 1's.
     
  4. Steelrules

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    Maybe, but displacing Moore at LT or Jones at RT is a low bar
     
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  5. CK 13

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    Best hope he can be solid on the left side. I am reserved after seeing him on the right. But his natural position is the left side.

    Just glad the finally the turnstile Dan "Less" Moore will be gone.
     
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  6. RipTydz

    RipTydz Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully switching Jones to the Left side after flip flopping him during training camp and then playing him on the Right the last two years hasn't messed him up. He was already raw in college on the left side. Now we are going to trot out Fautanu on the Right, who mainly played Left in college. We are definitely going to need to resign Fields for his mobility attributes while this young Oline gels and becomes what we hope they become.
     
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  7. defva

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    Why can't we just go out and draft the specific position because all of this so-called versatility is not showing up in the pros. Get a player that has played that position his whole college career. Not one that just switched over for a season or two in college. They tend to fizzle out early
     
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  8. steel machine

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    I wonder if Fields agents are telling him he has us by the balls? The free agents at QB are nothing to get excited about. A lot of them are guys trying to squeeze the last bit of money they'll make in the NFL. I'd do the same in their position.

    IMO Wilson a better QB then Fields. Neither are going to make us a contender. I'm hoping it's Fields. I'll freaked if both get better offers.
     
  9. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Lazy Day

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    Getting reps anywhere can only help his development
     
  10. RipTydz

    RipTydz Well-Known Member

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    Im not so sure about that. Theoretically, you would think reps could only help ones development but in Jones's case he kinda regressed. They need to slot him into a position (ie. LT) and keep him there so he is honing his skills on that specific side. Like Dan Moore said "playing the right side for him is like trying to wipe your ass with the opposite hand". The kick slide and hand punch is totally different depending on which side you are on. With that said, the OL is going to gel quicker when they know what to expect from the man beside them aswell so they can build that comfort and communication level.
     
  11. mac daddyo

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    and jones has been on the right side for two years. he also practiced there in college daily he said, even though he mainly played left side in college during the season. it's not new to him. maybe this is as good as jones will be. it took him years to start at bama. instead of making two guys change sides, leave jones on the right and put TF at his natural position on the left. jones has been learning the steps from the right for two years, leave him alone. :cool:
     
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  12. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    It is imperative that this young man comes out swinging after the injury,
    Now if we could get a competent OL coach to get him and others a chance to succeed.
     
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  13. Thor

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    Not sure that's an accurate way to put that. Jones red-shirted his freshman year, then overtook Jamaree Salyer during his sophomore year while Georgia was on its national title run, and remained the starter through his junior year.

    You may be right on him, but I'd still like to see him slotted at LT before we make that determination. While it may not have taken years for him to take over the starting role, the simple fact of the matter is he only started 19 games there in college. So he was considered physically gifted, but technically raw.
     
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  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    He started the last 4 games over an injured salyer.:cool:
     
  16. Thor

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    And? You have a habit of only addressing part of a counter-argument. All scouting reports on Jones addressed the fact that while he showed a lot of good traits and upside coming out, he had only started 19 games at LT.
     
  17. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    And saying he overtook Saylor during the championship run was the truth? Sayler got injured and Jones got to start the last 4 games of his second of 3 years. :cool:
     
  18. Thor

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    Ha. I wasn't trying to be misleading - I knew Saylor had an ankle injury that year, but didn't look up to see if he was deemed healthy by the end of the season or if Georgia decided to keep with Jones.

    The larger point is he was well-spoken of before and after he cracked the starting lineup in 2021. He was at Georgia for three years, one as a redshirt and three-quarters of one as playing every game but only starting at LT for four games. His junior year was 15 starts at LT. Saying 'he didn't he 'didn't start for years' is less accurate than what I posted.

    He came out as physically gifted, but raw. Let's hope he develops into physically gifted and a plus OT. :thumbs_up:
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Scouting Report: Strengths
    • Has strong arms and a powerful grip, and Jones displays the core strength and leg drive that allows him to create movement at the line of scrimmage.
    • An agile mover who puts his length to good use, using his hands aggressively and landing solid initial punches. Jones can move to the second level as a run blocker, with the coordination and balance to hit moving targets.
    • Cerebral player, quick to react to twists and stunts up front, and he shows an excellent understanding of angles when moving out as a run blocker.
    • Shows a good feel for combo blocks, and he displays good quickness and flexibility when moving to the second level, capable of sealing the back side on reach blocks
    • In the run game, he explodes off the line of scrimmage and consistently gets out to the second level to do damage.
    • Possess great grip strength and keeps the grip even when imbalanced
    • Crazy speed for a tackle - has the skills developed from a basketball background to split out and play tight end
    • Outstanding Hand/Grip Strength - enables him to be an elite pass protector
    • Didn't allow a single sack at left tackle in all of 2022
    • Physical and Finisher Mentality
    • He's super strong as you would expect for a five-star recruit - able to rag doll defeenders
    • Smart players with elite spacially awareness
    • Ability to Act as a Bumper if Left Uncovered
    • Punishes Interior Defensive Linemen
    • Elite Core Strength
    • Uses momentum to fuel violent rotations
    • High-level flexibility to quickly swivel
    • Able to match edge rusher's direction changes and quickly stop them in their tracks
    Scouting Report: Weaknesses
    • Has the traits to improve, but Jones gets impatient in his set, lunging and reaching, and generally playing with poor balance at times. Jones is inconsistent with his kick slide.
    • Needs to work on his technique in pass protection, using more consistent leverage and continuing to move his feet.
    • As an outside chance to stick at left tackle, but he might actually fit better on the right side or kicking in to a guard spot.
    • Stops his feet after initial contact, relying on length but allowing the defender to get the corner or spin inside.
    • Only 22 starts in his entire college career
    • Does not protect his chest and core, leading to inefficient balance
    • Leans and bends at the waist, causing balance issues
    • Technique is not as polished - looks raw
    • Gets overaggressive at times
    • Struggles to maintain leverage through and across reps - lacks some drive as a run blocker - much better in pass protection
    • Too tall off the snap making enabling the defender to win the leverage battle
    • Needs to bend his knees more - too upright at contact
    Scouting Report: Summary
    Broderick Jones is probably the best athlete in the entire offensive line class, he's very strong, has elite core strength, cat-like quickness, and has the speed of a tight end. His upside is huge as a pass blocker, however, he isn't nearly as good as a run blocker where he has struggled a little. This is most likely due to the fact that he hasn't played as much as you would like and as a result looks a little raw technically.

    Overall Jones is a top-level prospect with serious potential to be a dominant pro player - he'll be a first-round selection in the 2023 NFL Draft.
    Broderick Jones percentiles vs other Offensive Tackles(NFL Combine historically - higher value represents better perfomance)
    Previous: #2 Paris Johnson Jr.
    Next: #4 O'Cyrus Torrence

    :cool:
     
  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    reading jones and fautanu's pre draft strengths and weaknesses. both are supposed to be much better pass blockers than run blockers. we hire a run first OC. similar to when we drafted zone corners and made them play more man. you can't make this chit up. :cool:
     
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