Should the Steelers draft a young qb like Jaxson Dart?

The whining from Ben would've been epic. He whined about drafting Rudolph when we drafted Dobbs the year before. Tomlin can't develop QBs. This is obvious.

Steelers are screwed anyway at QB for the immediate future. There's no good options going forward in 2025. All vet QB free agents will not net any better performance than Wilson or Fields. Rookie QBs won't be developed properly like Nix and Daniels were in 24.

 

Steelers have got to try drafting QB ---until they find the right one.

 

Yes.

 

Like any position, you evaluate, set up your board, and draft who you want. Hopefully you do not reach, but drafting a guy you like at 20 in the 2nd round, when he is labeled as a high to mid 3rd rounder is not necessarily a reach, more importantly is doing your own research, seeing the fit of the individual in your system, and taking him when your chance comes. You can move up or down, but bottom line if your guy is available you take him.

 

Im surprised the Jets have not made you a valuable insider in their organization, oh thats right, the owners grandson already has that position locked up!

 

I personally won't be surprised if Will Howard sneaks into Round 1. Doesn't seem that likely... but who's to say a team isn't going to trade up for him?! Wills rise since the closing days of the 2024 CFB Season has been nothing short of meteoric.


I had him outside the Top 150 on my big board. He is currently Top 60. Might even sneak into Top 50 depending on how the rest of his NFL Prep goes.

 

I wouldn't consider using a pick on the most pivotal position to be a waste. Will Howard is intriguing, 6'4" 235 lbs,

 

He's like a poor man's Josh Allen. Can run QB power in the red zone, but also can beat you with his arm. Play action is a strength of his too.

Granted, he really only has two years of quality starting play (and his Ohio State year was very obviously better than his final Kansas State year for obvious reasons). But even if he is only good when his weapons are really good, then that isn't a huge issue for me either. Jared Goff, Brock Purdy, Joe Flacco, and others are definitely the types of guys who can win when the team around them is good, but not by themselves. You can still win a SB that way. There are only a small handful of guys that are going to be able to carry a team by themselves.

 

Well, if we end up doing a lot in the FA period, would you be against taking him at 21? If Howard or Dart happen to be the guy we like, then why not?

We do have some things to address in FA to enable us to take a shot at someone like that (get a high end WR, possibly sign a good CB/DL, etc.) but it is certainly possible. I wouldn't hate it. Sign a couple Bengals in WR Higgins and DL Hill and then take stab at DJ Reed or Byron Murphy at CB, then draft QB round 1 and RB round 2? Sign me up. That would be one hell of an offseason IMO.

 

I like Howard but not in the 1st. That said, he'll certainly be available and if OKAW love him, and if they can trade back and add picks, then so be it. Team isn't going anywhere without a QB and Fields is not it.

 

Pickett won games with the Steelers nobody is impressed with his mop up duty with the Eagles, and the Steelers developed Rudolph he sucked with the Titans. Dobbs has been on like 10 different teams and keeps getting benched .

 

I was looking at some of the QB prospects yesterday and a couple annalists seem to feel the same way. it's hard to really put any guesses on who will do what at this point, but of all the Qb's not already pegged to go at the top of the draft, he seems to be very intriguing.

 

No way

 

Well they are desperate. But I understand what your saying. Although Ben was from Miami of Ohio. I see them waiting till 2026 better options and they need to build the Offense.

They do need a DT but the draft is loaded so either the 2nd or 3rd round for that. Receiver should be the 1st pick. I would be in favor of bringing back Hargrave.

But the common denominator will screw it up.

 

I applied but you know...family first

 

QB is going to be a challenge this year, no doubt.

I don't think our Front Office has the moxey to pull off something special and then I worry about the coaching.
We basically let a dim with Canada ruin our last attempt.

I do think you have to look to the draft. You can pick the best one available at the right time, and you don't have to pick him to be the starter.
There is nothing wrong in picking up a decent backup. If things work out, then so be it.

Any young QG they go with, you need to build around.
You want to run the ball effectively and throw high percentage passes and play good defense.

I'm starting to think that this draft class, while not outstanding in regard to QB, is going to produce 1 or 2 late bloomers.
I think going to the right team is key.

 

I think this year's class is a bit better than some give it credit for. The high end talent isn't there (its not like last year's class), but there are a number of pretty good prospects that will go late first through the 3rd round that all have a pretty good shot at being a quality NFL QB.

Outside of there being a couple of higher end guys than Ward and Sanders in next years class (Manning, Iamaleava, etc.), I am not so sure the rest of that class is any better than this year's.

 

We have a horrible track record with any quarterback that isn't named Ben Roethlisberger for the last 25 years. Ben spoiled the Steelers. They went so long without needing to really coach a quarterback that they don't know how to do it or something.

 

Kordell Stewart won a playoff game in 2001.

Tommy Maddox won a playoff game in 2002.

Winning playoff games eludes the Steelers these days.

 

Half the teams in the top 10 picks of the draft are in desperate need of a quarterback this year. I don't think any quarterback that has any decent level of skill is going to make it outside the first round this year. It's not that they're all good candidates, it's just that there's a lot of teams that really need a quarterback. The only quarterbacks that are going to be in rounds two and later are the ones that nobody sees any future with.

 

Everyone points to our QB as the main excuse for not winning playoff games. Rex Grossman started in the SuperBowl. Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles won it. Jimmy Garroppolo got there, Cam Newton, Rich Gannon, Colin Kaepernick all got there too. You don't have to have a stud QB to win in the post season. You just need to win the games, no matter how you do it.

That is why I will continue to say that its a coaching thing why we lose. We're just out schemed and out classed when the lights get the brightest. There are a lot of things Mike Tomlin is good at, but early in his career we had the team and surrounding coordinators to overcome his deficiencies.... Now that our team doesn't have the best roster in the AFC and we don't have quality coordinators around, Tomlin's weaknesses get exposed. He's simply just not a high end coach. He's a good enough one, but he isn't going to be able to do it on his own. The other coaching staffs around the league (the better ones are the ones that make the playoffs typically) are just going to out maneuver him. We can make Tomlin work, but not in the capacity that he's in now. He can't be the "CEO" of the team. He needs to have some quality coordinators around him to do the things he sucks at (gameplanning, in game decision making), and let him be the player's coach that he is.

 

STELERS NEED TO GO GET SAM DARNOLD AND DRAFT WILL HOWARD. That's how you build a Championship QB room.
Both have had alot of recent success with no issues or question marks. Time for the Steelers to invest in the QB position the right way.
Not gambling on the home town kid, or picking up 2 cheap cast offs that no one else wanted. Sam Darnold was a stud last season and so was Will Howard.
There's no excuses with these 2 at QB next season.

 

Nope.

 

When it comes to coaching in a game, I would say that Tomlin's coaching strength during a game is halftime adjustments. We very frequently come out in the third quarter and do exceptional. His biggest weaknesses during a game is not being prepared at the beginning of the game, and not making adjustments during the game other than at halftime.

We come in with a game plan and we stick with that until halftime. We then see how the other team is doing and make adjustments going into the third quarter and stick with that plan to the end. The problem is that the other teams all seem to be more agile in their thinking and adjust to our play at all points during the game.....imo