NB's Mock Draft

i like all of them but not jonson , i would prefer another lb (kiko alonso ? sio moore ?)

 

Nice job, SCNB. I think all of these picks are reasonable and you expound on each one nicely. This would be a realistic draft for the Steelers. I must admit, while this draft makes logical sense I wouldn't be doing any happy dances if it breaks down this way. My hope at this point is that Jarvis Jones falls to us in the first, but as you point out that's not likely to happen. I think in the second I'd rather go with BPA rather than need and I hope that we're able to keep Sanders. If not, I fully understand your logic in round 2. Love the Griffin pick in round 7! Good work!

 

Nice Job Steel City NB, your selections cover the same needs
I am thinking. We just have different taste in players.

 

I want no part of Mingo or Damontre Moore.

Moore has a reputation of not taking his job very seriously off the field. He doesn't hit the weight room like he should and the rumors are that he goes out an parties way too much. They're saying he's going to be a train wreck as soon as he gets an NFL contract.

 

i dont dislike your draft but i have to disagree with you on the draft. with the needs we have this is the deepest draft we could have. saftey is extremly deep and so is lb. the problem is running back and wr are not. the star positions are weak therefore people think the draft is week. oline and dline is above average. corner is not strong but there are some solid players for rounds 2-5. i am excited for us this year. if we choose to, and i hope we do, we can get 4 future starters and at least one this year on d if we draft right. we can get 2 starting safties and an olb or mlb. if we go offense in round 1 and 2 this will be hard to do. i have seen some mocks with us going wr and rb in first two rounds. i think i will lose my mind if we do this

 

Gun to my head? I'd go with Moore over Mingo, because I think Moore can at least play. I think Mingo is going to just get tossed around by NFL offensive linemen. And if Moore ever got his work ethic on the field to match off it he'd probably be a great player, but I want no part of either.

I wouldn't be shocked if Jarvis Jones is sitting there at 17 and we take someone like Vacarro over him.



I don't think we have to get an OLB as bad as everyone else does. I think Worilds is going to get his chance. I think the coaching staff likes Chris Carter and Alan Robinson as backups too... I agree that if we go OLB in this draft it probably has to be in round 1, but I think we don't take one.

 

http://thesidelineview.com/columns/nfl/metrics-breakdown-top-pass-rushers-tier-1

here's the article i was talking about steel.

as far as your mock. i don't dislike rambo, but i like others better.

i love woods as a wr.

griffen and barner we agree about. i also have been high on ray graham as an option.

i really like lewis-moore too.

i like baca but they say he has trouble in space finding targets and hitting them. if i'm taking a guy like this at 6, i'd be much more in favor of dalton freeman from clemson. he can play C and G. he still has the baca quicks also.

nico should be better then he is. i've been shying away from him for awhile. i don't know why he couldn't be built into a pass rushing OLB. everything is there but the insticts and play. moore i think will slip. he's talented but his short comings may be compounded at the next level. he may be there in the 2nd by draftday. pretty solid draft though.

 

i agree that all the top pass rushers are flawed and usually are.

remember until just a few short years ago we were the only team running the 3-4. we are not new at it. alot of teams are still searching for those type of players as they made the switch. they are more likely to take a shot in the dark at the POTENTIAL guys that look good in shorts then the steelers would.

we have guys in place. other teams are still searching for starters. i think it's alot of the reason all these DE's are the rage this year. we however know what we want in those guys. if it's not there, we won't pick that position.

at least it used to be that way here. then again, they could bring in a guy nobody has heard of from kent state and have a HOF'er. they have done pretty well from there so far. LOL

PS. there is actually a pretty good LB from there this year. they had a good team too last year.

 

it is a good read mac. the only problem i have is that everyone with an ipod and a website has opinions on these things. its like kiper and mcshay. they can guess at what team is going to take a player just like we can. the top ten isnt hard after that nobody knows.imo i like to watch games. when i see a kid get to the qb all game long either sacking or just in his face. i say who is he playing, is the kid blocking him going to play nfl ball, and does he disappear during the game. i can tell you that georgia has two kids who will be good pros. jones and washington. jones gets all the pub so naturally he is going to be the first rounder but washington is every bit as good. you can get him in the 3rd maybe 4th. just one more example is lemonier from auburn. mid rounder that can play every bit as good as any first rounder u will draft. he just doesnt have the gym stats as the other players. that hurts me being a bama fan to even say it. a steal in the draft could be devonte holloman from south car. he has been very productive there for 3 years. i know when they played tenn he was all over the field. my point is i think in the mid rounds you can get quality if you study tape and do your homework. i have always said the film dont lie. when you line up against other future nfl players and you can hold your own, its a good sign. when you dont. well you get the idea

 

not according to lemoniers workout done by butler. a prominent afc scout was heard saying they came away unimpressed.

teams could have players ranked 32 different ways and at 32 different slots every round. it just depends on what they are looking for. can that on field talent at the college level handle the pro level? will they play year 1,2,3 really comes into play in these free agency days. sure it was nice we brought along guys from within here, but as we are seeing, by the time they get on the field it will then cost us money. we don't want to become the minor league feeder team for the rest of the league.

 

again i dont look at workout numbers. now that being said if they were unimpressed thats all that matters. if u are gonna go by butler then u can forget a rookie lb starting anyway. i have heard him say several times a rookie wont start. for every workout warrior u list i can name a player who was a solid pro who stunk it up at combine. the plus side to drafting playes like cory from big schools is the do it week in and week out against nfl type players. i mean every member of alabama, georgia, and even lsu offensive line will make nfl rosters one day. i remember zack thomas. i met him i think it was two years after he retired. i remember thinking how in the world was he an nfl lber. i am taller and built bigger than he is. but when u put the tape he was damn good.

 

he first said that about spence too and the kid impressed his way into a starting role.

they may have to change their ways on evaluating at some point. guys just don't stay with teams that long if they show anything at all.

there are so many things that go into a players evaluation. if he gets more pluses then minuses they will consider them. lemonier has the build they are looking for it seems, just like simon and maponga (sp?) whom they were looking at too.

i don't think confrence has anything to do with it, there are alot of flops even out of the SEC too. they do like consistant winning top teams. they have to think , is there enough from what we see for him to start year one, two, three, or four. or is there something we can't fix about him and never will. it's an educated crap shoot.

there are alot of players that aren't as big as most people think. head , heart and natural ability has alot to do with it. finding guys that have all the physical gifts with head and heart and then you have something.

 

Actually I like the flow of your mock. Only thing didn't roll with but you know the Steelers and Tomlin are probably looking at him is pick 5. Love pick 6a and 6 b, those guys are good value for ass kickers

 

Uh, what did you just say???

Edit: Never mind. I think I deciphered it.

 

I'm not too thrilled with it either. I really expected a better one from you as you're a board member that I respect when it comes to things like this. seriously I'm almost shocked.


I don't like Moore with the 1st pick unless we've moved down and acquired an extra pick. I agree OLB is a need but I think it can be filled by a smaller DE in the middle rds unless of course J. Jones is available.


I don't like WR in rd 2. Limas sweed did that to me along with being able to find talent like wallace,sanders & brown in the mid-late rds.

I don't like rambo period. We've had our share of pot smoking alcoholics head cases...... Swearinger or Thomas would be a much better choice in the 3rd if safety is the position you're looking for.

Its not all bad for me as I LOVE your picks 4-7 especially picks 4,5 & 7.

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