STEELERS FAs + & -

I made a left turn with you Ms. Daisy
- Morgan Freeman

 

Let's hope we have a 1974 draft not a 2008 draft. Otherwise, we will need to use the "R" word.

 

I think we're straddling the line right now. Either we successfully re-tool in the next couple years and fill some missing pieces, or we're going to have to go through a full rebuild. We're not to the point of needing to rebuild, but if we don't start getting some more talent on this team, we're going to be there soon.

 

not lost........... thrown away (he was cut)

 

with all that said........... we may just come out ahead in this one

 

I'm not saying the head coach is (responsible?) for drafting, but man i have been les then impressed with our drafts since Tomlin has been here

 

if you've actually seen any of pouncey's injuries, you'll notice that none of them had anything to do with pouncey himself. every single one of his injuries have been a result of one of his line-mates being pushed back into him... this does not constitute an injury prone player, it just means that he's had a lack of talent around him.

 

Not entirely sure who has the final call, whether it's Rooney or Colbert, but it's definitely not Tomlin. Tomlin obviously gets a ton of input, but the final call likely rests with Colbert. I'm currently reading this book
http://www.amazon.com/Next-Man-Up-Behind-Todays/dp/0316013285

It gets into the behind the scenes stuff. It's mostly about Baltimore, but it's still a great book. Anyway, it talks about how Newsome has the final call for the draft and not even Buscietti can overrule him (not without firing him first). I don't know if that's the case here or not, I kind of doubt it. I would think Rooney can overrule Colbert if he wanted to and possibly does the odd time, but I still bet 95% of the time Colbert has the final say. Tomlin wouldn't be able to overrule Colbert.

I too have been less than impressed by our drafting lately. It needs to improve.

 

Maybe, maybe not. Injury prone players find ways to get hurt it seems. Whether they twist their ankle or guys fall into them, some guys are just injury prone and will always get hurt one way or another. Time will tell if Pouncey is one of those guys or whether he's just had some bad luck, but he does seem to get injured a lot. There's a lot of lineman that have teammates fall into them and not all of them get hurt every time. Pouncey needs to stay healthy and Adams and Gilbert need to take that next step. Not sure what we have in Decastro yet.

 

I don't think this is really a case of getting rid of the old for some new talent. Its more about the Steelers finally paying the price w/ the salary cap. No way they wanted to lose this many talented players.

If we want to be competitive next year, we will need a ferocious pass rusher (I still think JH could be that guy this coming season), a player at ILB to complement Timmons, a playmaker CB, more depth at safety and a playmaker WR with speed. No way we get all of that from the draft.

 

How talented were they, though, if this team struggled with them in the lineup? Wallace's biggest play of the year came in Tennessee...a game the Steelers lost. The Steelers best stretch of the season came when Mendenhall was out. I think the Steelers are thinking/hoping/guessing/praying that they can be healthier in 2013. If we replay 2012 with each of those guys (listed above) gone, but Ben, Troy, Ryan, DeCastro, and others playing the whole season or playing MORE, I'd argue they go 10-6 and make the post-season.

 

It wasn't long ago that Rooney released a statement talking about "owner interference." He said it's not interference, it's him helping to run a team he owns and how he's not an owner that doesn't participate. So I would bet that he absolutely does "interfere." Now whether he overrules Colbert or simply gives his opinion, I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised if he overruled Colbert the odd time, after all, he overruled Tomlin about Arians, and there's speculation that he hired Haley and not Tomlin.

Either way, Colbert isn't Tomlin's boss. Colbert can't fire Tomlin, they just have different roles. The same way Colbert can't tell Tomlin which RB to use, Tomlin can't tell Colbert who to draft.

 

i think we are banking on alot people staying healthy this year.

 

Reason I didnt put Harrison on list was we we let him walk and could (most likely not) resign him. The lost list was players who had signed with other teams.

 

The GM may very well be the boss of the coach on most teams, but I don't believe that's the case in Pittsburgh. I'm sure I've read articles talking about how the Rooney's are the only ones that can fire Tomlin and that Colbert doesn't have the authority.

 

The GM may very well be the boss of the coach on most teams, but I don't believe that's the case in Pittsburgh. I'm sure I've read articles talking about how the Rooney's are the only ones that can fire Tomlin and that Colbert doesn't have the authority.[/QUOTE]

With yinz on this 82.....Heard the same.

 

i'd have to say he won't or can't fire the coach unless his boss says so. rooney wouldn't do the firing but would tell colbert to fire him. so yes colbert can fire him but not on his own. rooney's are still colberts boss. but remember art rooney jr. answers to a board of other owners of the team. i'm sure it's a concensses of higher ups then colbert.

colbert gets to make the picks, but lets not forget art jr. was a scout for alot of years here, and knows talent. most of the rooneys came up through the ranks as scouts, so they know what to look for and wouldn't let colbert hap hazardly throw a pick out there himself. i'll bet every pick has input from position coaches, scouts, asst. head coaches, head coaches,GM,on up.

 

i think alot of it has to do with what team it is and how involved the owners want to be. here it's been a family affair for so long and all the kids were involved since they were young in the process. it probably is different then alot of places.

 

The thing about Foote, is, he is amazingly durable, lebeau can count on him showing up to play on game day: He had 113 tackles 4 sacks 2 forced fumbles this year, he calls the defensive signals, and hearing about how inadequate he is continually from some fans doesnt match the fact that he is solid in the middle and calls the defense, hard to replace a backer like him when you factor in what he does for lebeau on defense..........

 

but you realize they catch passes against him at a 75% clip. he gave up 4 passing TD's last year. he leads lb'ers in missed tackles. last in pass defense again. also leads lb'ers in yards after contact but hey, i guess he's the best we can find.