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How similar are the Steelers and Ravens (since 2012)?

Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by steelersfan35, Jan 20, 2025 at 10:51 PM.

  1. steelersfan35

    steelersfan35 Well-Known Member

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    Even though the Steelers and Ravens haven't been to the Super Bowl since 2011 & 2012, I just realized that both teams are kind of similar (in a way)

    Both teams have had their share of missing the playoffs and getting eliminated in the postseason, despite some good regular seasons since 2012, which makes me wonder if Harbaugh will find himself on the hot seat (since Tomlin is already there) if he can't win it all with Jackson and his current roster.
     
  2. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    What's your basis for saying Tomlin's seat is hot? He just got a three year extension.
     
  3. steelersfan35

    steelersfan35 Well-Known Member

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    Several Steelers fans wish that he was on the hot seat, even though he isn't.
     
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  4. AskQuestionsLater

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    The Steelers and Ravens are both similar in the fact that both have underachieved given their teams level of talent; Pittsburgh via the Killer Bs Era of the 2010s and Baltimore's Action Jackson Era currently. Massive difference is that, since 2010, Baltimore has had played in more AFC Championship Games (3-1) and more Divisional Playoff Games (7-3) than Pittsburgh has. For that matter, Pittsburgh hasn't won a Playoff game dating back to 2016 whereas Baltimore has won 3 total during that same time span.


    However, the futility between the Steelers vs. the Ravens isn't just felt on the Field. It is also in the Front Office. Baltimore has been continually expanding their Front Office at a tremendous pace dating back to the 2012 Season. Pittsburgh, on the other hand, has been very slow to do so; adding an Analytics Department in 2015 but only having made minimal gains since then. For that matter, Baltimore's combined Front Office for Football Operations (36) beats Pittsburgh's (27). Coaching Staff is also a major discrepancy; Baltimore having 40 total compared to Pittsburgh's 26.


    Now, do numbers always tell the whole story?! Of course not. Miami, San Fran and even Las Vegas all didn't make the playoffs despite having among the biggest overall Coaching Staffs total. For that matter, the only Coaching Staffs remaining are relatively similar to Baltimore's, Philadelphia, Buffalo and Kansas City. That is it.


    The biggest difference between the two now?! Baltimore has a future HOF QB. Pittsburgh doesn't. Moreover to the point is that Baltimore has learned to adapt to the modern NFL whereas Pittsburgh's antiquated approach only gets them so far.
     
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  5. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure about the entire staff but the Steelers are dead last in the NFL with 19 coaches. There are a lot of teams with 25 coaches. It would seem that investment in coaching is not a priority with the Steelers
     
  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    I am accounting for other coaches like Strength and Conditioning mind you.
     
  7. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    I know. That 19 total is all of them
     
  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    If you are talking about Offensive, Defensive and Special Teams?! I agree. However, I am factoring all forms of coaching.
     

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