Has Khan, Weidl, and Tomlin Been Given Enough time?

The discussion asks just that very question though. We have a 2025 draft, season, and post season discussions about said season and needs going into 2026.

 

Correct. You asked if the three of them have been given enough time.


My response was of two fold; Tomlin has been out of time for a while whereas Khan and Weidl have just begun.


The only way to know if all three (more specifically Weidl and Khan) were given enough time is dependent on the results of 2025 along with 2026. Tomlin has had his chance and therefore cannot be counted among the three.

 

Yes, but I still marked it a C anyway. I gave him that average grade because it's still too early to tell what they'll become, even if they looked good this year.

 

Maybe a better measure; if the first 3 picks in a draft do not get a 2nd contract then it was a failed draft. High picks are expected to be long term starters.

 

For Khan and Weidl yes, they need some time. Tomlin? No. Hes had way more than enough time and very little to show for it. Time for a new HC and staff to go with the new GM.

 

In my opinion, it’s an argument that has a very small amount of merit.

 

OR... the 3 together can be better than any 1 or 2 of them. Still measuring.

 

True. But there are other factors that can event that. These guys are free to test the open market if they choose. Injuries play a role. Etc.

 

Ben also shoulders a significant amount of blame in our failures

 

The only hope is Tomlin losing some level of control over everything. We know he's not leaving but if he continues being Art's true #1 in command, none of these conversations matter.

 

tomlin should get 20yrs. to life for killing the Steelers.

 

This thread kind of regurgitates what I've said quite a few times.

We might have the responsibilities of the GM defined wrong.
I coaching is messing up the talent they provide, then you have a coaching problem and as a GM you need to get that fixed.

I happen to think our GM(s) are failing.
The WR ordeal was/is a disaster and the idea of these 3 QB's wasn't all that great, even though we did make the playoffs.
But there are some questionable draft picks as well. Ideally, you want tom have the best 53 players in the league. It is not possible but, that is the intent.
They need to find playmakers, players that impact the game.
Pickens, arguably, could be a world class talent but I think within the first 5 minutes of meeting with him, you realize there is a character issue.

With regards to the line of scrimmage, you have to keep horses in the stable. You draft those guys every year and cultivate the best.
If you win the line of scrimmage, you'll probably win the game.
Weidel knows this. Philly built a huge line.

Lastly, they seem to be uninspired to go out a get players that can put the team over the top.
As the trade deadline approached, they knew they could have a shot so the 'big solution' was to trade a pick for Mike Williams.
And there was some practice squad moving.

Now to be successful, a leopard has to change its spots.
They have to upgrade the DC, and O Line coach. They could add some eyes by adding a a couple extra coaches.
They need to find quality coaches.
They need to be more aggressive if they feel a player can help them - both in the draft and/or Free Agency.
Lastly, interview the players you bring in here. No more robbing the short bus.

I doubt any of that changes.
Robert Saleh is still out there. I would toss Teryl Austin to the curb so fast. Teryl who?
This would have been done.
But we'll get someone asking why we didn't when Robert Saleh signs elsewhere and we'll get some milktoast crap response.
Sure other teams might want him, but we want him more... we want a championship. That's the drive.

 

Interesting take.
I get a lot of NOLA news here. From what I'm hearing/reading, the Saints are very interested in Aaron Glenn. Glenn has said that he's only really interested in the Jets job. How do the Saints hire a coach that's not interested in working for them?


I know you can throw money at him until he does want that job, that's one way. But do you want to hire a HC that's only in it for the money?


Same with FA. Maybe Khan spoke with Brady/agent and offers were made. Maybe. But Tom wanted to go to Tampa because it's warm there.


I am in agreement it is the GM's job to get the right people here. But the fine line lies exactly in the example of Pickens. Fantastic athlete. Incredible player. Got him here. Now fans don't want him. At what point do we as fans just let these guys do what they do for a time, then judge the whole body of work once enough time has passed we can see the results of that work? With draft picks that is typically considered 3 seasons.

 

I don't think Glenn is a possibility.
Robert Saleh is though, and there's probably someone else I am missing.

Not sure about your angle with Pickens, He does have a lot of talent but his head is full of cotton. I'd force him to compete with 2 quality WR's.
Would love to have a Terry McLaurin to guide Pickens. There's a chance that maybe he responds with a good crew around him.
As for fans making decisions, you have to ignore them completely. I was in Washington for the past 40 years... I saw them crash and burn and even play that fan game.

But the bottom line does change. We either have:
a. A misalignment or responsibilities misaligned with the GM(s).
b. If not (a) then they need to step up their outputs. (Using your example, Brady was never ever a consideration and should have been.)

But what I see is a lazy approach. Some wheels should be turning at this time.
This would indicate no change coming other than signing some players to the futures which bothers me, why?
Well we were a 10 win team and one would 'think' you just need to add to that.
But, we are a weak 10 win team.

 

I greatly admire what they did. Harris is a super owner but his big hire was Peters who has jelled with Dan Quinn.

 

Jerry Jones would be the opposite of doing nothing. He's very hands on with his team. I don't want that for the Steelers either.


Ownership is fine. Rooney is a football guy. I like most of what I have seen from Khan so far. Tomlin has been a great HC. I'm not sure what Weidl's job is but many people seem to love the job he's doing as well. Just have to let THIS version of our FO do what they do long enough to judge the results accurately.

 

Jim Rooney, "it's an organizational issue"

https://steelersdepot.com/2025/01/j...of-playoff-success-its-an-organization-issue/

OK Jim, what are yinz doing to fix such organizational issue. This is nothing more than lip service.

 

This is just mental gymnastics so they can arrive at their chosen destination - let's do nothing again.

 

I think more than anything Colbert’s last few drafts really hurt us. They whiffed in a big way in the first round. Traded up for Bush? Edmunds was an average at best player. He played fairly well around the Los, but was a liability anywhere else. Artie Burns? I like Harris for what he is, but not as 1st round pick. Additionally I get the feeling he wants out of Pittsburgh. Pickett? You go back 10 years and the only real production we’ve gotten out of first round draft picks is from Shazier and Watt. I don’t think for a second we have a snowballs chance in hell we would be drafting hof’ers in the first round every year, but that’s very little production over that span. Granted some of that is caused by our own success. We simply haven’t been in position to draft those blue chip players.

 

To further your point here, it's simply just not 1st round whiffs here, it's entire drafts of whiffs from 2018-2022.

 

Dmr?