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My thoughts on our roster...... WR's

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Jan 14, 2025 at 10:01 AM.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The defense has one good corner. Problems in the secondary are one reason the defense fell apart. Mitchell is already outstanding. This is a passing league, so having a pair of stud cornerbacks is incredibly valuable.

    Injury concerns were reportedly why Fautanu fell in the draft. Then he got hurt again.

    Yeah, it was a mistake.
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Williams probably deserved more snaps but he's not a #2 WR anymore.
     
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  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I have posted this many times but if the top CB in the draft falls to you draft him, this never happens for the Steelers that's why they should've drafted Mitchell.
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You should know that football games are won in the trenches. You can win football games with a shoddy secondary but much harder to do with no offensive line. The oline was a much bigger factor to losing than 1 CB so no, not a mistake.
     
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  5. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    #1 CB>#8 OL
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    More of a number two than anyone else on this team.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Don’t care.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The local media said the same thing he can't run all of the routes.
     
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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I remember Kozora saying something about Williams just not being that good anymore, and those guys watch the All-22.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Jefferson can???
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying Jefferson is a #2 WR, but fans were expecting too much from that Williams trade he's not the same guy from his Chargers days.
     
  12. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't Tomlin. It was Smith who liked Jefferson, brought him from Atlanta because he could block in Smith's scheme.
     
  13. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    You should know that you can't help the club in the tub. All Fautanu showed us as a rookie is that the injury concerns are valid. Mitchell showed us that he's going to be a damn good cornerback for a long time. You can do a hell of a lot more on defense if you have two outstanding corners. The Steelers still could have invested in the line this year with Frazier and McCormick. They would have been a better team this year and they wouldn't be stuck having a hole at corner going into 2025.
     
  14. Jball

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    I've looked at probably 25 scouting reports from all the top sites and not one of them even hints at any injury concerns with Troy. I'm wondering where you got your information?
     
  15. Trafalgar

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    No team has perpetual issues with WR's the way the Steelers do, it's a diva position, but the Steelers have one after the other - so it's definitely a culture issue IMO. It's an every season distraction.
     
  16. mcam

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    We don't know anything of Wilson yet. The man hasn't done anything in the NFL.

    All there really is with long-term potential is Pickens, but the man has the maturity of a child.

    So yes it is a very weak room.

    Imo get rid of the Diva Pickens don't sacrifice character for perceived talent which will rub off in the locker room.
     
  17. AskQuestionsLater

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    Asspull.com/confirmation+bias.
     
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  18. M2K

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    If the Steelers had a QB with the talent that George Pickens has at WR.... they would be one of the top 3 tandems in the NFL. The closest you have on the team... to the level of talent Pickens has... is TJ Watt.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You should know that injuries are part of the game and can happen to Mitchell at any given moment.

    Doesn’t change the fact that you should build the trenches first. They really don’t have to add any picks this year to the position so “having a hole” to fill doesn’t track because they’d just have to spend a pick on the line had they took Mitchell.
     
  20. Thor

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    Fautanu tore his ACL early in his college career, and also suffered a Lisfranc sprain. The knee hadn't bothered him in years prior to the draft, and naturally he was vetted medically as part of the draft process.

    The 'concerns' for a prospective team looking to draft him would've been centered more around if those injuries were apt to hinder his performance or longevity in the NFL than whether he'd suffer an injury during his rookie contract. There were no serious concerns that I ever came across in that regard, and I wasn't the biggest advocate of his due to the more prominent concerns analysts raised over whether he would be able to stick at tackle, or have to move inside.

    I agree with Blast that you have to build and maintain your trenches, thought with the depth of last year's tackle class last year I was personally okay with waiting until the third if need be and going center, CB, or WR in the first two rounds, depending on who was available and when. Obviously the FO was high on Fautanu ,so they pulled the trigger when he was there at 1.20. He looked good in limited action this year, and I'm pulling for him to build on that next year.
     
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  21. forgotten1

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    THOR We all know as Steelers fans medical vetting happens as quick as a Larry O physical

    NEVER!
     
  22. Jball

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    Thanks for the info.

    The way it was being presented was that he had major questions about his ability to stay healthy, and certain people were warning against drafting him because of his status as a medical time bomb. I don't remember anybody talking about that concern at the time, and looking back at the scouting reports, I found zero evidence of this concern. Seems a little strange that no publications, that I found, alluded to such a red flag.

    The only concerns/hesitations on him that I recall was, as you said, was his ability to stick at Tackle. There was the consolation though, that he could be an All Pro guard if moved inside.
     
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  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Was wondering too. I know he didnt have knee problems prior to this and a dislocated knee isn’t a soft tissue injury that would indicate someone is injury prone anyway.
     
  24. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/04/022/takeaways-nfl-draft-latest-buzz-rumors-medicals

    Washington OT Troy Fautanu’s knee was flagged. That one was described to me as the sort of issue that shouldn’t be a problem in the short term, but could wind up impacting his longevity in the pros (though his high football character is a factor in making teams feel like he’ll do all he can to take care of it, and give himself the best chance).
     
  25. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Cute, but wrong.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/04/022/takeaways-nfl-draft-latest-buzz-rumors-medicals

    Washington OT Troy Fautanu’s knee was flagged. That one was described to me as the sort of issue that shouldn’t be a problem in the short term, but could wind up impacting his longevity in the pros (though his high football character is a factor in making teams feel like he’ll do all he can to take care of it, and give himself the best chance).
     

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