Tomlin is the longest tenured coach in the NFL (18 years); no coaching tree?

Mike Tomlin is the longest tenured head coach in the NFL with 18 years experience with the Steelers. He is a HOF coach and won a Super Bowl. Yet he has no coaching tree which seems very weird given he's the longest tenured head coach in the league.

Why is this?

 

We all know why this is, he doesn't come to the table with anything to learn. He surrounds himself with other coaches that won't outshine him and reveal the fact that he's mediocre at best. The fact that Campbell is about to produce more of a coaching tree in 4 years than Tomlin has in 18 should tell you everything you need to know. When is the last time we had a coordinator that other teams were asking permission to interview?

 

I don't fully understand this "Coaching Tree"? Bruce Arians won a SB after leaving the Steelers. He was under Tomlin.

Is it guys who never Coached in the NFL and get hired by Steelers, under Mikey, and then move on to other teams???

 

No tree but a lot of nuts like him

 

He was a Cowher holdover. And also basically fired. Not sure how much input Tomlin had there though.

 

B.A was a Cowher holdover

 

He was only a WR coach under Cowher, Tomlin promoted Arians to OC and they won a Super Bowl.

 

I don't get the local news so maybe this was not "new" news coming out of Mike T's press conference.

A reporter asked Mike Tomlin about George Pickens being late to arrive for the Christmas Day game, and Tomlin responded that he didn't know because he was doing other things getting ready for the game. Not sure how a Head Coach loses track of one of his best players on game day.

 

same way he loses track of what is happening during most games

 

He knows he's just lying again to cover the fact he has zero control over the locker room. That's why we diva reciever after diva reciever.

 

He probably didn't want to discuss it with the media, but Pickens has fined a lot by the team the last two years.

 

It's in vogue to bash Tomlin.
Lot of folks probably think I am a defender for him, I am not.

I tend to look at it from the higher altitude.
I am loyal to the Rooney's, my family has known them for many years.

At the very least, I am very frustrated with Tomlin. He talks like a Harvard educated man, but his actions are very different.
#1 on my list is being able to self-assess and reinvent himself. It doesn't take a genius to figure out he's in over his head, what he currently does works only to a degree.
To me, it's obvious. 'Get out and upgrade my staff, then allow them to work their magic.'

My frustration is amplified by the performance of the front office.
This isn't 1970. If the coach you have is not performing up to your standards, you have to take action. Period.
And by the way, find some game influencers. Skylar Thompson isn't even a 3rd QB, for example.

It was sad to watch Noll after the 70's passed.
Particularly disappointing was the decision to not pick Marino and instead selecting Rivera and sticking with an over-the-hill Bradshaw and Cliff Stout.
In a way it is sad to watch Tomlin. He has left character with the team with his Tomlin-isms and as the record is clear, he does win a lot of games.
The problem is, getting it to the next level.

It is true that Tomlin did benefit off Cowher's team.
Tomlin is not in the same class as Noll, other than the fact that he is past his prime.
I figure Tomlin will stay his contract and then move on. Disappointing? I'd say yes but given the fact that Tomlin is indeed a 'player's coach' he fits in with the Rooney values.

Tomlin should read the banner that is on the walls the next time he goes to the locker room.
"The standard is the standard"
Those are his own words and he's not living up to them.

 

He’s more like a coaching sunflower

 

Below are his words recently. My followup question to his diatribe would be this " Of those adjustments and changes which you speak of which of those could not be done while your team went on a regular season losing streak"?

“We didn't evolve in the right ways. We didn't strike the right chords at the right time particularly down the stretch so we've been eliminated from the single-elimination tournament,” Tomlin said, per the team. “For us, it's about assessing the reasons why, doing an assessment of every component of what it is we do here in the manner in which we do it, but we're at the very infancy of that. It comes to a screeching halt in this business and those of us that have been in it for a long time kind of understand that, but we also understand that moving forward happens pretty quickly.”

 

Incredibly, Arthur Smith is getting HC interviews.

 

He lied. He just wants to be seen as always in control

 

Good he can't be gone soon enough

 

I’m thinking Skylar Thompson is just someone to toss the ball in rookie camp for example because after the draft there may not be any other quarterback under contract

 

I'm more being sarcastic as it seems when the waters get rough, they run out a sign 2,3 players ----- to the practice squad.
They can't really sign any answers till Free Agency.

 

Another word salad that means nothing and will lead to nothing. It reads like a corporate CEO adressing the quarterly shareholders meeting when the company has underperformed again.

In answer to your question, anyone watching knows that Tomlin completely refuses to evolve in season and in the off-season. The "plan" next season, will be exactly the same plan as it's been for years.

How has be been HC for 18 years and has learned absolutely nothing new? It's mind-blowing.

 

You’re exactly right. Just read something about him not going to Fields when Russel was obviously struggling

. Bottom line he think it was a collective issue that should get worked out collectively. The man is a complete and utter clown. Sure Mike. Just keep letting it go until magically the issue(s) resolve themselves. How he even breathes makes a man wonder. The dude is a smooth brain .

 

It's very simple. No one wants to implement a Tomlin offense or defense or culture. The league is a copy cat league for the most part. If other teams liked what Tomlin is doing in PITT they would try to steal our coaches in an attempt to implement the "Tomlin way". No one has done that. That speaks for itself.

Tomlin gets all the praise but no one is willing to put their $ were their mouth is in regards to the so called greatness of Mike Tomlin. Clearly the league does not truly believe he's as good as what the steelers FO clearly thinks. That is always a sign of respect when others want your people. This is also leadership 101.... good leaders build other leaders. I question just how good of a leader Tomlin actually is. I suspect what players like about Tomlin is the ability to have a. life outside of football.... that is attractive to players and coaches - especially the younger gen of employees. There's no other explanation that I can think of as to why the league has zero interest in steelers coaches, strategies, and culture.