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My thoughts on our roster....... Quarterbacks

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Jan 12, 2025 at 2:48 PM.

  1. AskQuestionsLater

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    Dude is gonna be generational.


    For that to happen... it would take a collapse the likes of which some Steelers Fans have not seen since 1970.... or ever in the case of others . There is way too much talent on this team for that to happen. Only way is unimaginable amounts of bad luck in succession; bad injuries, poor exectution and so on.
     
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  2. CJ12

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    Nope what we saw is Tomlin likes anything old and outdated hence Russ. Just like the defense scheme and offensive schemes he likes to run old and outdated. He had fields so afraid of turning it over he barely did throw it period. Hate to tell ya but there will be turnovers with a modern team look at the chiefs the bills ect. But Tomlin wants to play 1970 football run it to death punt and play defense. That doesn’t work in today’s nfl. Look at Lamar he wasn’t great when he came into the league passing but he got better but what makes it so simple for him is his treat to run. Look at the top qbs now they all have that threat. Name me a pure drop back passer today closest one is in Detroit and he has the best o line in the league and that took awhile to build even so if you do get pressure on him and make him move he isn’t so great. Russ can escape from a wet paper bag.
     
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  3. CJ12

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    You got to be kidding. People wanting Russ back are the same ones who think Tomlin is the greatest coach of all time. Maybe both of them back will keep the standard 8-8 and another no losing season.
     
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  4. Steelrules

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    I know he has the pedigree, but he would only have one full year as starter if he declares for the 26 draft. He’s going to need proper coaching and a team that’s patience.
     
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  5. HeinzMustard

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    Wrong. Most of those people you are referring to want Tomlin gone and realize Steelers can do much worse than Wilson. Wilson is not the problem. It's the below average OL. OL has been bad since Pouncey, Decastro and Villanueva left. Going on 5 years of sub par OL. That is on Popcorn.
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

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    A) Don’t know that. They were 4-2 with him and removed any possibility of him improving by sitting him for an old washed up QB. All the reasons for sitting Fields were on full display by Wilson.

    B) So what if they did? They’d have a better draft pick and wouldnt have to waste another season seeing if they can win with Fields. You have to know that he is the leading candidate to start next season, right?
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

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    All the more reason to ride with Fields next season. He’ll either rise to the occasion or flop. If it’s the later you may be in position to grab Manning or one of the other top QB’s.
     
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  8. Rollers

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    I remeber the Steelers of the 60s! I can still remember the drawing of Chuck Noll the morning newspaper had when they hired him. That's going back to 1969 I belive.
     
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  9. steelersrule6

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    Learn how to read because I didn't say I wanted Russell back, I was talking about what was best for the team this past season.
     
  10. steelersrule6

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    You're forgetting that the vets on the team called Wilson to get him to come to Pittsburgh, so he was always going to be the starter.
     
  11. steelersrule6

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    Slow your roll Arch hasn't even played a full season yet, we heard the same hype for Trevor Lawrence.
     
  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That doesn’t change anything I said. How are you still defending it even in hindsight.
     
  13. steelersrule6

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    Because it doesn't matter what us fans wanted Wilson was going to be the starter, they thought a vet QB could help them win in the playoffs. Pickens would've been an even bigger problem if Fileds stayed the starter because he wasn't getting the ball enough.
     
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  14. Spock

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    Well, whatever they decide to do; Sam Darnold is NOT the answer.
     
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  15. Blast Furnace

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    This is a discussion about what would have been best for the team and there is no argument to be made defending the Wilson decision based on results.
     
  16. Blast Furnace

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    At least he will be affordable now.
     
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  17. Hanratty#5

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    And Darnold is just good enough that we can crawl to a 9-8 record which is most important.
     
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  18. steelersrule6

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  19. KnoxVegasSteel

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    The steelers are not known for developing QBs.
     
  20. Formerscribe

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    Why would I admit I'm wrong when I'm right? The Steelers lost nothing by sitting Fields. They were better after they benched him. They likely miss the playoffs if they stick with Fields, who has proven he is not a good enough passer to be an NFL starter in three full seasons and six starts this year. They also saved themselves from having to give up that conditional fourth-round pick. If they had any faith in Fields as a long-term option, they wouldn't have benched him.

    Please don't misrepresent my position on Pickett. I wanted Linderbaum. (I was right about that.) If they weren't going to go that route, I didn't mind choosing Pickett because I was happy they didn't take Willis. I wrote that I hoped they knew something from all that time sharing a facility with his college team. I didn't count on the Steelers finding just about every way possible to mishandle Pickett, but that's exactly what they did.

    There are no mental gymnastics going on here. Simply the truth.
     
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  21. Formerscribe

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    I agree that Tomlin had Fields too focused on not turning the ball over. It's exactly how he ruined Pickett.

    Just because Jackson eventually panned out doesn't mean Fields can do it. The Steelers clearly didn't trust him. Opponents didn't fear him, either, though part of that was the weak receiving corps. Also, keep in mind that no team was willing to give up much to get him. The Steelers got him cheap to be a backup. That should tell you something, too.
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    Yes, there is. The results were an improved offense that got them into the playoffs. It cost them nothing and kept them from having to give up that conditional fourth-round pick. Silly Tomlin. He actually played the quarterback who gave his team a better chance to win games this year.
     
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  23. Formerscribe

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    He may have cost himself $20 million a year or more in two games.
     
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  24. Blast Furnace

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    Yes, it was silly of Tomlin. You making this argument given the results is even funnier :lolol:
     
  25. HeinzMustard

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    I'm not against bringing Fields back, but Wilson is gonna put up more points and be more consistent in the passing game with a "real" OL.
     

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