Do you want Russell Wilson to return next season as the Steelers starting QB?

Well obviously you'd think a rookie would have a lot mroe to learn and adapt to than someone with a dozen years experience. So that's actually much more impressive than what Wilson did...

 

Wilson's QBR this season was 51.4 and Fields was 51.3. It just makes sense to go with the guy 10 years younger that gives you the same results as the

Mason was terrible this year throwing 9 TDs and 9 picks before being benched for the gawd awful Will Levis.

 

Nope. No. Keep JF and coach him up. Let him learn the system. He is younger and more mobile. Sure, he might have issues seeing defences, but he has more of a ceiling then old man moonball.

 

He improved in some areas and regressed in others. Fields seemed to be less of a threat to run and wasn't a threat opponents respected as a deep passer. Teams attacked the line and dared him to beat them deep, but Fields couldn't do it. It is easier to avoid turnovers if you don't take chances with your throws. Didn't we learn that lesson with Pickett?

A young quarterback isn't going to develop without trust. Tomlin refused to trust Pickett and he regressed in year two. He refused to trust Fields and while he mostly avoided turnovers, he also threw only five touchdown passes in six games and the offense as a whole struggled against crappy competition.

 

He has more problems than just his inability to read defenses. He is four years into his NFL career and he can't make a throw that requires touch and/or loft on the ball. How is that even possible?

Signing him to compete with someone else as a bridge quarterback next year is one thing, but there is no reason to believe he can be even a good NFL starter based on what he has shown four seasons into his career. If you restrict him the way they restricted Pickett last year, telling him to avoid turnovers at all costs, he might at least take care of the ball and make the occasional play with his legs, but every defense is going to stack the line and dare him to beat them through the air. Most of the time, that strategy will work. Occasionally, he will light up a bad defense. That is your upside. He's Daniel Jones.

 

Fields Fields Fields…. LOL

 

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Every conversation about Coach of the year has Tomlin in it. The main reason is his 'incredible' decision to start Wilson in week 7. I just don't get it. Why is that a big decision that makes you worthy of being coach of the year?

I also want to point out that fields was 4 and 2. Wilson was 6 and 5. Different teams played and all that, but still.....

 

That's what regression means, not doing things he has done in the past. He showed he could sling it at times in the past, but we saw very little of that this season. That is regression.

Yes, he had two massive games last season. One was against the same Broncos a week after they gave up points to the Dolphins. The other was against the Commanders, who were 4-13 last season. In his other 11 game, he threw eight touchdowns and eight interceptions.

Yes, the rushing touchdowns count, but you don't win in this league without a quarterback who can beat opponents throwing the ball. Fields is four years into his career and hasn't shown he can be that guy.

 

Unfortunately hindsight is 20/20. Wilson will end his Steeler career 6-6 and on a 5 game losing streak. The only way you consider bringing him back is if he comes back alive in the post season and wins us a few games. Not likely.

For a while there it looked like the right call to go with Wilson, but I started saying after the Washington and Baltimore games that the offense completely evaporates if the moonball isn't hitting. How true that ended up being. Teams are daring him to beat them underneath and to the middle of the field, and he either won't or can't do it. Should've just stuck with Justin and seen where it took us. We toyed with fate and got burned. Now we look to be in another rough situation at QB.

 

Fields did try some deep throws. He just wasn't effective when he did it. You are the one trying to have it both ways. You want to claim Fields wasn't hitting any deep throws because the offense restricted him, but refuse to acknowledge that was a big part of why he stopped throwing so many interceptions.

No, I shouldn't have stopped at saying rushing touchdowns count because you can't win in this league if your quarterback isn't enough of a threat to back the defense off. Fields wasn't. Yes, he got some of the few touchdowns the offense was scoring with his legs, but they weren't scoring enough points.

No, they shouldn't have stuck with Fields. They were 4-2, so they had a real shot to contend, but Tomlin realized they weren't going anywhere with a quarterback who is that limited as a passer. He had to find out what Wilson could do. The results were positive. The offense was much better as the team took control of the division, so he stuck with Wilson. No, teams should not quit when they are winning, which is basically what you were and are advocating. If you want to argue that they should have gone back to Fields a week or two ago, fine. I can buy that logic. Before that, sorry, your argument made no sense.

 

You argued that he was limited by the coaches. Those limits are what kept his turnovers down. I didn't write that you said he didn't try any deep throws.

If Fields is the starter and he struggles, that will prove me right and you wrong. I am the one saying that he isn't good enough to be an NFL starter. You are the one who thinks he can do the job. The Steelers had plenty of opportunity to see what he could do and they benched him. If they give him another shot next season, that is because they are foolish or because they can't find a better option, not because they didn't play him more this season. I don't think you are intentionally setting up a false premise that would make you right when you are wrong, but that is the effect here and I'm not buying it.

 

I'm not a coach. But from my armchair perspective when comparing teams, this is what I see. When other teams do a pitch, there's always about three blockers that are out there picking people up and those blockers are frequently already at the line and past it. The runner is going to gain the line and get a couple of yards just from their blocking. When the Steelers run this same play, it always seems like the blockers are already engaged either at the line or short of it and the runner is not even guaranteed to make it back to the line. So there is some kind of a difference on the setup because we never seem to have any blockers out there ready to pick up incoming defenders like you see with other teams.

 

I have watched all their games. He won 2 of the three games for them. At least 4 interceptions weren’t his fault as they clanked of the receivers hand into defenders hands. He scored 30 points in one game. By the time Titans turned to him, the team pretty much gave up as the Defense didn’t bother to stop anyone and the run game became totally non existent. You can’t succeed in 3rd and long consistently without a right guard. He is still accurate, gets ball out fast. Also Titans only went back to Levis in last game where Mason also played 3 series and scored on 2 of those.

 

One possibly has some potential left, the other has nothing left to offer but more regression.

I'd ride the whole of next season with JF see where we land and then draft a QB if JF isn't the answer. I'm not into running the RW experience back.

If we don't make the playoffs next season and go say 6-10 that might be the wake up call this organization needs.

 

I know some people here have a deep and enduring love for Mason Rudolph, but putting yourself through watching Titans games seems like a high price to pay.