We don’t have a Talent Problem!

A not so subtle attempt to bring in race and politics. Be better.

If you want to make it about Tomlin’s poor coaching, there are plenty of examples to point to.

 

That article can’t be more of an indictment on the coaching. High pedigree players come here and get worse. You watch if Meyer comes back next year I guaruntee Frazier gets worse. Why did we hire the guy in the first place? He wasn’t a winner anywhere else but somehow Tomlin is gonna cultivate his best coaching talents out of him because Tomlin has such a great track record with assistants and coordinators. Rooney has two decisions to make. Either get rid of Tomlin or sit him down and tell him his track record with assistants sucks. Terry Bradshaw said it a long time ago. He said Tomlin wasn’t a coach but a cheer leader. Terry knew he himself need tough coaching to develop as a player. He saw good coaching first hand with Chuck Noll.

We have a golden opportunity to go after Detroits OC for our next HC. This is an offensive minded league. Go get him. Trade Tomlin to the Jets or the Bears. Go get a real DC to actually take advantage of the talent we have on defense.

 

I agree with you on lack of depth, but outside of that where do we lack talent on defense? Maybe another CB, but outside of that what are we missing? On offense we are missing another WR. Perhaps a QB but if we played the right players and had a better scheme and actually coached up the line perhaps we could win more with Russ.

 

He did get schooled, but the guys played a handful of games as a pro, on an island, with the best wr in the league.

 

I agree. I am not impressed with ART II. His dad was much better.

 

Yep Tomlin has the exact same mindset as you do. How has that worked for us the last ten years?

 

No. That would be you. If you have to bring up politics/race/philanthropy into a discussion about football you’re nothing but a brain washed muppet with the iq of a turnip.

 

We should be a year into a do-over now, instead we are 1 year into a 3 year waste of time.

 

Chase is legit. The issue was more scheme and not giving him help. That's on coaching.

 

There is no doubt that we need adjustments and possible different coaching. But the childish Tomlin Tomlin Tomlin sh!t belongs at the little league field. As for the defense, we are weak in the run in the middle and Queen did t fix that. Maybe Holcomb will help but we don’t get a lot of stops at the line. Our zone defense has too many holes against a QB like Burrow.

 

Good coaching doesn’t put him in a one on one match up with arguably the best WR in the league. And when they do they have a safety over the top to help the guy. Trice played outside leverage on the TD he gave up to Chase and there was absolutely no help over the top on the inside. The defense is poorly coached, period.

 

Go back to the first post I made in this thread

I said that there is a clear talent issue but that is not to say there aren’t coaching issues too. There are, and I have posted about them in the past

They extended Tomlin last June so they are not going to fire him but at a minimum we need a new Oline coach and possibly a new DC

Tomlin should also be told that this is his last deal unless there is real improvement in the coming two seasons

 

no help on the WR leading the league in Yards, Receptions, and TDs.

lol

 

I agree with you on a lot of it. As for the season, they won 10 games and are in the tournament. Keep in mind that they had the most difficult schedule in the league and any team facing an 11 day grind facing the Eagles, Ravens and Chiefs then trying to rebound in the division against Burrow is a recipe for struggles. They need adjustment and probably leadership changes in the off season, but we won some tough games and that does not go away.

 

Nothing will change.

 

Outside of Dan Moore how can you say we have talent issue on the line. We have invested a ton in that position. Seomalu has actually regressed each season since he has been here. Broderick Jones has gotten worse from year one to year two. The guard we trade to the Rams, Dotson got better since he left us. What other evidence do you need? We consistently hang on to underperforming players and coaches for the sake of continuity and it hasn’t worked for years. How long have we been complain gin about this offensive line? This is clearly on the shoulders of Tomlin, Meyer, Smith and Rooney.

We have the highest paid defense in the league. We have all pros all over the place on that side of the ball and remarkably every time we add outside talent they do well at first here then they regress _ Minkah Fitzpatrick, Deshon Elliot, Queen. Yes we need another CB and WR but plenty of teams do more with less.

The defense is solely run by Tomlin. Compare his defense to KC’s. How many players can you name on KC’s defense? Yet they are light years ahead of us in production.

 

What's funny about that? Steelers didn't even put their best CB on the bungles best WR. No way to explain that other than Tomlin thinks he's smarter than everybody else. And the result proved that he's not, once again.

 

Then why are they paying the defense side of the roster so much? That in and of itself is the biggest indictment on Tomlins ability to coach. He literally has the highest paid defense in the league and we did mid level performance out of the unit. Tomlin is the DC there is no question and yet we aren’t a top five defense. We have talent all over the place on the defense at all three levels. No excuse.

 

So if you double Chase, and you double Higgins, do you single the TE with a linebacker? Or the slot? And you have no run support from your safety. It’s not as simple as you make it sound. You would need to either see the game live or watch a tape that shows the entire field to understand the issues. When you have a team that has multiple threats, the defense often resorts to a zone scheme and great QB’s like Burrow or Brady carve Zones up. It’s the challenge. You cannot double everyone. They tried several safety blitz’s but Trice could not hold up 2 seconds.

 

I spoke in particular about the offence, I know they have proven talent on D

They have invested heavily in the Oline and it was unfortunate that Fautanu and Daniels missed the season. That said, the group has not come together and I think at this stage they need to part ways with Meyer

We can wish for sweeping changes where everyone in the building is fired but we all know that’s not going to happen. They do need to make meaningful changes this offseason however.

 

Outside of Highsmith, Watt, Fitzpatrick and Heyward the Steelers can upgrade any of the positions on defense via the draft or FA. Not to say the other pieces have been bad either. I mean even Fitzpatrick, when it comes to production, has been underwhelming, and can be replaced via the draft and get similar, if not better production. The talent on paper is indeed there, but they're simply not producing. Elliot definitely can make plays, but his position can be upgraded. Benton is young and someone worth building around. Queen has talent, but has been underwhelming. For the investment, they're simply not performing and they have to take as much responsibility as the coaches. I'm all for cleaning out the staff and gutting the roster; they're going nowhere.

 

Your an A&$$. He said nothing about race what so ever. Quit reading into things and assume you know what the person is implying. Its quite obvious which way lean and more evident you drink the Koolaid the MS media is feeding you. Shut Up, Nobody wants to hear your bullsh!t.

 

Tomlin wants the problem WRs which is why we always have one. If the TE catches the ball the time would have expired prior to spiking the ball agin that’s coaching. The offensive play calling was run first until the final 8 minutes of the game. The last two drives the scored a TD and ran out of time. Yes they had one fumble the bengals made more mistakes than the Steelers.

 

Unfortunately its the world we live in. Which side made it about politics first ... that is the question.

 

So you are saying if the TE catches the ball they had enough time to spike the ball. I think the was zero chance of that happening in time