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Do you want Russell Wilson to return next season as the Steelers starting QB?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Jan 5, 2025 at 1:04 AM.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    After this four-game losing streak they haven't scored 20 points once, if the moon balls aren't working he kind of sucks. If they get blown out in the playoffs, I don't see how they can give him a new deal paying him like 30 million or more a year. These last four games he's really starting to look his age, too many bonehead plays.
     
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  2. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    No. I don't want him as the starter at any dollar amount. We have 2 options. We either go after Sam Darnold and hope it pays off, or we sign Fields to a "bridge" type deal and draft a QB in the next couple of years.
     
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  3. Robert

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    Nope. I completely abhor the rotating 'veteran QB' scenario that we have been on for 5 years. We win too many games to get a high first round pick and not enough to earn any prestige. If there are any good QBs in this next draft, I hope that they consider whatever deals they need to do to trade up. We have a major problem at QB. We are wasting the prime years of some superb defense players and a lot of money invested in them because our offense is about a scary as a 3 legged kitten.
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see the Darnold thing happening he either stays with the Vikings or some other desperate team will overpay for him.
     
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  5. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    If he takes the same deal to be a backup, sure.

    Otherwise, no thanks.
     
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  6. OX1947

    OX1947 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing matters until Mike Tomlin is gone. No more delusional horse**** from Steelers fans and all those dumb ****s in the media continuously saying Mike Tomlin is great. He has NEVER been great, he has never even been good. He has been as average as they come.
     
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  7. Robert

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    While I lean towards agreeing with you (I think it is more than just Tomlin in the coach's office), I also see the writing on the wall. He signed his extension. He is not going anywhere. The Rooney's history says that he is there at least thru his current contract (2 more seasons I think?).

    I was really hoping that we would get DeMeco Ryans after SF's big year. You could just see head coach stamped on his forehead. But the Rooney's kept Tomlin and Ryans went to the Texans. I don't know who the smart guys in the NFL pipeline are now, but I would bet money that short of Tomlin deciding to retire himself, we are going to see his smiling face on the sideline for 2 more years at least.
     
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  8. SGSteeler

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    We tried with Pickett, just got it wrong. Trubisky was always just here to hold the starting job until Pickett was ready. Ben's final year is what it was. I was fine with Russ and Fields as a bridge, but we were in good shape with Fields through the first 6... We missed an opportunity to fully see what we have, and now we find ourselves in a situation where Russ is unextendable and Fields is still a bit of a question mark. We know we can win with him, but we never really turned him loose.

    If we go the Fields route, we probably need to find an OC that knows how to run his QB. Fully buy into the legs and see what happens. This QB class is whack and I don't think there is going to be anyone worth taking a shot on. Roll with Justin for a full season and maybe take a stab at a better QB class next year.
     
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  9. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Why make the right choice? Ryans would've been a great choice. We could've fired Teryl Austin and had Brian Flores as the DC. He might've just worked his way up to the HC gig as well. We could axe Tomlin and get someone like Ben Johnson in here this season, but we will punt on that too.

    We've sat on our hands as an organization for far too long. I get that not being the high-risk/high-reward team pays a lot of dividends, but Tomlin was a risk back in the day. We need to take another shot on a young and talented guy. The game has passed T by.
     
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  10. Robert

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    I think that the Pickett year was always going to be a bust. I was a supporter and a hopeful cheering fan, but the reality was that he was just the best QB in one of the worst QB classes we have seen recently. You never know just how a QB will turn out (lots of failed top 10s, and Brady in the 6th....), but all of the signs were there saying it did not look good. If this year's class is good, I think that we need to grab one in the top 10. Wilson is going to get dropped and we will look to sign Fields or someone else of mediocrity as a backup / experience......IMO
     
  11. dirty

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    Nope blow the thing up. Need to have a bad season or a great one next year.
     
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  12. woofermazing

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    Signing him to a huge contract is the best chance of having a terrible year, and finally dumping Tomlin, so I'm all for it.
     
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  13. Steelvision

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    theres no rule that says he has to stay thru his contract, the Rooneys could buy him out on an agreed upon amount. Or they could trade him. He needs to go, hes not developing any young Qb or Fields for that matter. Russell Wilson was his last shot, and that hail mary is looking to be about failed..
     
  14. Blast Furnace

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    I think we know where I stand and on this.

    This is why you pay 80 million to let a QB go.
     
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  15. strummerfan

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    I didn’t want him before he signed with us.
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

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  18. Steel_Elvis

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    I’m definitely not a fan of going the Fields route, but months before we actually traded for Fields I said this. I also said that if we trade for Fields we should also acquire a backup who can run that same type of offense because the backup WILL play a lot of snaps. He’s a square peg in an NFL passing offense.

    My preference is to start all over again with the QB room yet again (maybe keep Allen as a backup). I don’t think there’s any hiding that Russ isn’t getting playoff-caliber support from his receivers or his pass protection, but that still doesn’t fully excuse what we’re getting from him this past month. A big offseason deal? No thanks.
     
  19. Wardismvp

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    Until we identify a winning QB that we can build from and can afford probably draft down the road
    Steelers will have to have a bridge QB. That bridge QB possibly Wilson, (money has to be right) along with
    drafting well again CB, WR, DL, OL. We have 3 players TJ, Cam, Minka that deserve a chance at winning important games.
    To all the people that want MT fired, it has not been the Steelers way. yes hopefully an exception will happen. But I doubt it.
    MT will leave on his terms.
     
  20. Formerscribe

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    The Steelers didn’t miss an opportunity with Fields. They saw the same limited passer he was with the Bears. They just forced him to be more careful than he was in Chicago.

    Wilson finally changed my mind last night. He butchered a 2-minute drill yet again. More importantly, he had a the opportunity to win the game by doing what he does best, throwing an accurate deep ball. He wasn’t even under pressure. He just threw it to the wrong spot. He showed he can’t do what they signed him to do. Time to move on.
     
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  21. Formerscribe

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    It wasn’t a Hail Mary. Missing on a Hail Mary is understandable. It was a deep sideline route to a wide open receiver. It was an inexcusable mistake. Hell, I think even Pickett would have won that game for them. At least he could execute a two-minute drill with the game on the line.
     
  22. DJ18Baller

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    He's done and will be a year older next year. Hell No
     
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  23. DJ18Baller

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    I’m not against a package for him to run at certain times but how can anyone on here think he is a legit starting NFL QB?? He can’t read a defense and throw accurately at this level.
     
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  24. Madmike77

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    There aren’t a ton of options out there. If it’s for one year at around $10 million then sure. Otherwise, no thanks.

    The Steelers aren’t going to be contenders until they draft a reliable QB, so it doesn’t really matter who the placeholder is in the meantime. They’re likely not winning a SB with a placeholder.

    The list of FA QBs next year is ugly after Darnold (who wouldn’t work well with the Steelers line and WRs). Maybe they can bring Mason back. It might be their best available option.
     
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  25. Karl

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    I hate all 3 QB's.
    I hated the way they muffed the Pickett deal.
    The front office owns moves like this, they should pay the ultimate price.
    To pile on, if Tomlin is as bad as everyone says, they own that in addition to the QB disaster they have now.

    Can they recover? It's going to take some really hard work.
    This might be the year Tomlin calls it a career.

    I'll play 'pretend I am Art'

    1st - Sit down with my GM duo. I want to hear the plan, and I want to hear something good.
    - I want to fire the entire coaching staff under Tomlin. It is stale and has no creative ideas. A few are not qualified.
    - This really isn't the draft to trade all out on say the 1st pick to get a QB. I don't think any QB's in the draft should go in the first 15. So, we have a mess on our hands.
    - Given that there isn't really a good solution for QB (at this time) and the fact that salary cap management has failed since we have a very expensive defense that doesn't produce, it might be a wholesale clearance on players. Anything that nets a trade for picks.
    - Buy In: If Omar/Weidel aren't on board or incapable, for the cap mess, for the QB mess, for the WR mess, for the coaching mess - they are sent packing.

    Once the Front Office is straight, you become better right away. They have to set the bar and feed the machine. There is some great GM work going on in Buffalo, KC, Washington, SF, Baltimore, LA Chargers, and maybe some others I am missing. Washington is a mega example of great GM work.

    RE: Tomlin.
    Most will hate it, but he has been a good coach worthy of a Hall of Fame spot. But it is a fact.
    Now the bad.
    He has become stagnate and too comfortable with his staff. His hiring of staff has gone to hell. He doesn't send them packing and does not invite fresh approaches. It's like walking into my grandmother's house where the furniture is old and tired, smells of mothballs and tapioca.
    I don't think he's on board for a 'system refresh'

    And then I woke up.

    I doubt anything really changes.
     
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