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  1. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    The best ability is availability. backs in the Steeler system must also be able to pass block and receive.
    And the real big attribute is ball security. Fans ask yourself, which back you like now. I personally like both
    backs, are we sure Warren could stay healthy for a 17 game season with 20 touches a game. Would he fumble more with more touches?
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    If the Vikings make a run in the playoffs they might keep Darnold on a short term contract, he's also a one-year wonder because he gets to play with a top 5 WR duo.
     
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  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I think they will let Najee go and draft another RB to share the load with Warren, I don't like having to use another high draft pick on an RB when there are other holes to fill.
     
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  4. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    It’s possible to get a 5th rd RB that can come in and share time. We need a WR CB DL OL in no particular order with our first 4 picks.
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Supposedly this is a very good RB class and deep.
     
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  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  7. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    Behind our oline?... it's a freakin' Miracle!!
     
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  8. Steelers '08

    Steelers '08 Well-Known Member

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    I agree I think Najee Harris has been a freaking stud since he’s come out of Alabama. We haven’t always had the best offensive line. Last year he didn’t have that great of a year and still got 1,000 yards. It’s easy for Jaylen Warren to come in and get yards because they’re worn down from Najee Harris carrying the ball 20 times. That’s just my opinion!
     
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  9. KMM

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    Maybe, maybe not.

    In the last 5 full seasons, 2019-2023, there have been a total of 60 1000 yd rushers. From 2000-2004 there was 91. From 1980-1984 there was 69.

    I get what you're saying about the 1 extra game, but the game has also changed such that running numbers are down compared to what they used to be, although this year may be different. The point is if you just look at the number of 1000 yd rushers/season it's actually harder than it used to be.
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    Very good indeed.


    Possibly great depending on how well the rest of the draft class is from my end once I review a good number of them.
     
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  11. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    it probably is harder to get 1000 yards running if you are an RB--- because off so much passing--- but if they run more and use a single RB.... THEN A 1200-yard season is impressive and doable.
     
  12. AskQuestionsLater

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    This.


    People tend to forget the term "Feature Back" is a bygone term from 1950s all the way up to the early 2010s. Teams don't employ one anymore. The ones that do usually have a player who is either Top 5 in all of the NFL or is one bound for Canton Ohio. No in between.


    Derrick Henry clearly fits the whole "HOF" description. Others like Josh Jacbos or Bijian Robinson can easily classify as Top 5 at the RB position.
     
  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Keep in mind regarding durability if Warren is the feature back there will still be a back picking where Warren left off
     
  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    "Both (Najee Harris and Jaylen Warren) are set to become free agents this offseason, with Pittsburgh having declined Harris' fifth-year option. As they potentially move on from Harris, who averages fewer than 4.0 yards per carry for his career, look for the Steelers to bring in a younger, more explosive RB for 2025," Jones-Drew said. "And I won't be surprised if they re-sign Warren, who'll be a restricted free agent this offseason."
     
  15. Hanratty#5

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    One college back that I would love to see in the Black and Gold is Cam Scattebo. He was a one man wrecking crew for Arizona State in the Peach Bowl against Texas. Even though Texas won in double OT, Scattebo was named the games MVP. He had 289 yards rushing and receiving and threw a 49 yard TD pass. It was one of the greatest individual effort I have seen in college football.
     
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  16. Formerscribe

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    I'm not sure why people think Darnold isn't going to get a big payday. Yes, it is only one year, but it is a hell of a year. I'd like to see the Steelers go after him, but he won't come cheap.

    I wouldn't mind Fields coming back as a cheap backup, but that's all. He's not a good starter. The offense looked so much better when Wilson replaced him. Imagine what he could do if his GM hadn't left him without a No. 2 receiver.
     
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  17. Blast Furnace

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    Explained right in the post you quoted. Teams will be weary of paying out big money for what could be an outlier. Doesn’t mean some GM won’t be reckless and throw big money at him but there is leverage for teams if they want to be smart about what they pay him.

    Wilson is what he is, an aging QB who is inconsistent and prone to trying to play hero ball and fails. Would not waste a penny on him next season. Ugly Russ has reared his head and it’s not just because of the supporting cast.

    Fields is probably who he is at this point as well but would be foolish not to be sure which is why I wanted them to continue to play him the whole season. Now they will likely be one and done with Russ so what was the point. Wasted opportunity.

    *Edit: I take that back, I’d spend money on Wilson as a BU but not as a starter.
     
  18. mikeyg

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    we are STUCK - w albatross Tomlin (coaching like it is 2009) and Assistants that will remain at or below par. There will be continued failure in scheme (frustrated players, like we are seeing with new-coming on D this year that KNOW what it SHOULD look like)

    Tomlin was LUCKY he had Ben - VERY LUCKY or he would have washed out MUCH MUCH sooner.....

    there will be MUCH EXCITEMENT about this FA or that, this player or that , in the draft, but it is a form of musical chairs.
     
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  19. jeh1856

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    Would he be a scatback

    Sorry I had to do it :facepalm:
     
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  20. Formerscribe

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    I'm not even sure this team would be going to the playoffs if they had stayed with Fields. They were a worse team with him in there. At 4-2, you don't give up on your season by sticking with such a limited quarterback when your starter is finally healthy and ready to go.

    I saw your explanation why Darnold might get a short-term deal or come relatively cheaply. I just don't buy it. I'd be very surprised if there aren't multiple GMs who will spend the money on a former top-three pick who seems to have figured some things out. Hell, look at what the Falcons gave Cousins last year. Sure, he had more of a track record, but he was also 36 years old and coming off a major injury.

    I can't remember who I had the argument with, but I remember multiple posters insisting that Cousins wasn't a huge risk due to the injury. I hope they all noticed that he was bad enough that the Falcons benched him because they thought Penix gave them a better shot at the playoffs.

    Also, Wilson isn't signing as a backup. He certainly has to take some blame for the last three games, but it's not all on him. Teams will see that he played behind a shaky offensive line with a weak group of receivers. His best target is an idiot who sometimes blows up plays by refusing to run his routes. That includes the killer interception against the Chiefs. Sure, Wilson should have seen it coming and dumped the ball off, but the safety was only in position to make the play because Pickens didn't run his route.
     
  21. Blast Furnace

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    They also all averaged over 4 yards per carry except Harris. Paying Harris big money would be a waste of resources.

    LT
    YPA 4.3

    Portis
    YPA 4.4

    AP
    YPA 4.6

    Johnson
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    Harris
    YPA 3.9
     
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  22. Formerscribe

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    They didn't have to pay him big money. They had him at a reasonable fifth-year option. Instead, they will have to re-sign somebody, him or Warren, spend money on an outside free agent, and/or use a draft pick on a back. I think the most likely option is keeping Warren and adding another back, but that is going to cost them resources they will need elsewhere with a strong chance at downgrading the position.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

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    Cousins is exactly why teams may be smart this time around before handing out a big contract. At least he had a good track record up to that point and was just the age and injury factors that should have made teams wary of signing him to top dollar. It would be reckless of teams to sign Darnold to a lengthy expensive contract. I could see a short contract paying top dollar but any team investing a 7 year deal with a high price tag are foolish.

    If Wilson finishes with a string of poor performances he won’t be getting top dollar and if he chooses to stay here it should be with the understanding he is not being handed the starting job this time. It’s not just the poor games he has been having here, he was doing it in Denver too, you’re all just seeing it now. Denver fans are laughing at Steelers fans for thinking Wilson still had it, literally, I see those posts all over social media and me and some others tried to warn all of you, too.

    I’ve seen the narrative that Pickens didn’t run his route. It’s a copout in order to take some of the blame off of Wilson. One of the biggest reasons for starting him is he is a seasoned vet who won’t make those mistakes, well it didn’t stop him there. He absolutely has to see the safety sitting there, Pickens was no where in sight so why would he be thinking the safety would be drawn away. Besides that, IIRC Pickens was jammed at the line, he never got a chance to get going before Wilson fire that pass off.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    My response was to the OP saying pay the man his money. No, don’t.
     
  25. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Well with the exception of two people on the planet I think we can now agree the Steelers made the right decision on the 5th year

    And contrary to what I was thinking they didn’t even offer him an extension
     
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