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Fear of losing Wilson and Fields in 2025!

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelresolve, Dec 2, 2024.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    If they go receiver they should still keep Pickens for 2025, then let leave in free agency and get the comp pick.
     
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  2. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    But if a WR like Jefferson or Chase is on the board you have to consider drafting them.
     
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  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    They gave Mason $5MM one year that might be enough to keep Fields

    Keeping Wilson.1 can be fit into the budget
     
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  4. Wolfepack88

    Wolfepack88 Well-Known Member

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    That always seems to happen. Never does the guy end up in the NFC with a ****ty team, it always seems its in our own division with something to prove.
     
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  5. Steelvision

    Steelvision Well-Known Member

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    Wilson is going to be resigned. He likes pittsburgh and he's not going to get a-lot of big money interest elsewhere, not at his age.

    fields will bolt for a starting gig in Tennessee or maybe Indianapolis. Hell get an opportunity to start in a place like that.

    yeah, again, people talk about fields and his huge upside. Running? Certainly isn't passing. Maybe he can develop somewhere else under some Qb guru like a Bill Walsh type (good luck)
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Cousins is the same age and was coming off a major injury and got a 4 year 180 million contract. The further Wilson brings the Steelers in the playoffs the more that contract will grow, dont kid yourself. Steeler fans will be left with one hope, that Wilson gives them a home discount.

    I certainly don’t want to see them sign him to a Cousins type deal which is already backfiring on Atlanta.
     
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  7. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Has anyone given the Steelers a home discount
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Can’t remember but thinking it’s a long shot!

    He took this years deal to cash in on next years. It’s his last payday.
     
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  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Ben
     
  10. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Pickens will cry if Steelers draft a WR in round 1.
     
  11. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    Did he?

    When?

    I think it was always FAIR MARKET. he was not giving any discounts. in fact, it hurt us late in his career.
     
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  12. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    too bad. He might be gone by the draft , we will see.......
     
  13. mikeyg

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    not sure, but this is different, in that - Russ is not just 'plug and play' at this point in his career. He won't get Top 5 QB dollar. Maybe Top 10 avg dollar - whatever that is......we will see. If we lose 4 (or 3) of 5 down the stretch, and are 1 and done in Jan, the whole negotiation is different....
     
  14. SteelersfaninPhilly

    SteelersfaninPhilly Well-Known Member

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    Wilson is a nice stop gap, but is not the long term solution. Fields is good as gone and I can't blame him.
     
  15. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    I’m just not seeing Fields getting a starting gig so he may as well be #2 here

    Mason’s overall stats and last season here are better than Fiekds I believe and the best Mason could get is $3MM as a backup
     
  16. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    With the right coaching and system he could get starter money. I could see Vegas, Tennessee, NY Jets, Gaints as fits. One of those teams won’t get their QB in the draft. What Qb in free agency will be higher than Fields next year?
     
  17. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    He did His last year, or the year before. I can't remember which.
     
  18. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    yes - well......he was LUCKY he got any extension, I did not like it....

    Tomlin and Colbert could not make a plan of transition, IMO.
     
  19. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't mean He didn't take a pay cut.
    I know a lot of people didn't like it, but He still put up more tds in his last year than, Pickett, Trubisky, and Masons did in the years following....all added together.
     
  20. SGSteeler

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    I don't think so. I think he wants another WR to take some of the double team heat off of him so he can produce. There is an X account that is pretty well known for being George Pickens' burner account (his account with a fake name so he can speak with anonymity) and there are multiple tweets of him asking for them to trade for or "get a #2 alongside 14".

    Pickens has some behavioral problems, but none of them stem from not caring about winning. Really, nearly all of his problems have flared up in losses. I don't think he'd cry at all if we drafted a WR in round 1. He wants to produce and get paid, and having a quality #2 next to him will only open the field up for him to get more catches/yards/TD's. Personally, I'd still pay Pickens. He's too good to just let go. The only way I don't is if we are 100% sure that we can't keep his attitude mostly bottled up. As long as Wilson is around and playing reasonably well, I think there's a good shot that GP stays happy and engaged.
     
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  21. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree with this part
     
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  22. SGSteeler

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    Totally. It is so hard to replace players of that caliber. I understand there's a tipping point where GP becomes more of a problem than an asset, but I don't think we've reached that point yet. He's a true top 10 player at his position. Even if we draft a WR in round 1, our WR room is worse without him (and its already bad because he's the only truly reliable option we have). The chances that a 1st round WR is as good as GP is still pretty low.

    We HAVE to try. Pay him a good deal that is easy enough to get out of if he crashes out. Most high end WR's are divas or problems in some manner. If we want to have one, we have to just figure out how to make that relationship work.
     
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  23. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    That’s pretty much what a few people said about Mason

    Fields is already in his third set of coaching and systems

    If nobody else wanted him for a 6th round pick why would they now pay him starter money

    But I’ve seen GM’s do dumber things
     
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  24. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Neither he nor his agent will accept a good deal that is easy enough to get out of

    They don’t have to

    Someone else will offer a normal contract

    And George 100% will go for every last dollar

    I doubt he would even accept a contract extension from the Steelers without being a FA
     
  25. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    He obviously has talent. It also is clear Chicago didn’t know how to develop him. They have struggled to develop Caleb Williams a supposedly generational talent. Like what other middling Qb’s have done in the league who flourished when in the right system. He throws an accurate ball and obviously he is highly athletic. I’m not saying he would be a superstar but a starting QB in this league with the right system with someone who knows how to utilize his talents, yes.
     

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