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Khans last two drafts!

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelresolve, Dec 2, 2024.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    This
     
  2. Steelresolve

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    Thats your opinion. I disagree with you on nearly everything you said. Even though Najee is having his most successful year, I still see a guy who is slow, lacks explosion and vision, runs up the back of his blockers where there isn’t a hole and completely misses his cut back lane. I think we can get a more than comparable replacement in the draft next year.

    Regarding your comments on the first round picks being incomplete. Even if they don’t make it to a second contract we literally rated an abundance of players into the fourth round that are either starting or contributing heavily and having a major impact on the games. Your absolutely nuts to say his drafts have not be successful. Most teams are thrilled to get two starters out of a draft and we have gotten way more in each draft.
     
  3. Steelresolve

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    Good post and you are absolutely correct.
     
  4. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if he can win the big one, but he gives us the best chance since Ben was in his prime.
     
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  5. SGSteeler

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    I think he really did nice work in the middle rounds. Being able to find sub package players that can make an impact is huge. Washington has been a good #2 TE but is great in running personnel, Herbig is a high end situational pass rusher, P. Wilson has been a great addition to play ILB in sub package play, and McCormick might just be an instant starter with upside to be a good starter.

    It is unfortunate that injuries have kept Roman Wilson and Fautanu out for the year... Benton is a fine enough starting caliber guy, Porter is a quality corner, and Frazier was an instant stud. Jones is really the closest thing to a disappointment so far, and he still is young and has potential.
     
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  6. SGSteeler

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    Dupree wasn't mid, he was pretty good. Edmunds wasn't a bust, but mid. But the rest are spot on. Harris is mid, and Pickett, Bush, and Burns were all pretty big busts. At least when we hit, we hit the franchise changing type of guy in Watt... lol he's probably worth 2 or 3 hits.
     
  7. S.T.D

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    Edmunds was a bust. If You can't even keep a job for a whole year with a team, after the original team that drafted You let's You go.....You Are a Bust.
     
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  8. SteelersFanIrl

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    I think Edmunds was a bust personally

    Dupree took a long time to get going, was productive for two seasons and then left. He hasn’t done anything since. He wasn’t a good pick, albeit it was a weak class in 2015
     
  9. SGSteeler

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    I think if you get 5 years starting out of a player, its hard to say he was a bust. He certainly wasn't a massive hit, but a decent starter for most of his career, then flame out in his late 20's seems like an above average NFL career. Not great for a first round pick, but not at all bust level. Its disappointing that we took him in front of Jesse Bates (who ended up being really good at the same position), but its not like we got an Artie Burns or Devin Bush out of him.

    Dupree was never an elite player, but a guy who's 17 game average is 7.5 sacks and a couple FF's and an FR... He's definitely a quality second pass rushing option. 9 year starter, in the league for 10 years and still producing. Plus we got his best years too... You can't draft a perennial All Pro player every year, and sometimes just getting a good quality starter is a success. Guys with his resume have had a pretty good career.
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    What people need to understand is roughly 7% of these prospects that leave college for the NFL are considered First Round Worthy by the NFL Draft Advisory Board. For that matter, those of us that watch College Football will see who is the "who's who" among players. For example, Travis Hunter is going no less than 3rd overall. Mason Graham is going no less than 11th... and so on. These players are considered Top 20 Prospects; a ranking by the Board that is notoriously difficult to obtain. For that matter, generally speaking, after the first 20 picks?! A team is better off buying scratch off tickets for that is just the same as selecting a player from 21-32; high stakes. Exceptions to every rule of course (see Quinyon Mitchell, a Top 10 Prospect in 2024) but falling due to the run of QBs and EDGEs. Such exceptions happen every now and then.


    Norms like Terrell Edmunds?! Having five seasons as a starter as a First Rounder is within the average of such players drafted within that range. For that matter, it is a range of extremes for his draft class; either you ball out like D.J. Moore and have success or be like Billy Price and being a complete bust period. Safeties generally don't hit well as far as First Round picks have gone anyways; Kyle Hamilton thus far being the exception to the rule. Lewis Cine from the 2022 is close to being out of the league, Daxton Hill from 2022 as well cannot stay healthy... at all, Darnell Savage from 2019 was good but faded rather quickly, Johnathan Abram of the same year as Savage is likely done, and 2023 to 2024 don't have any First Round Safeties to comment on.


    In short?! Terrell Edmunds is far from a bust but isn't a success story either. He is what he is; a starting capable safety.
     
  11. SteelersFanIrl

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    Yes fair enough. I will say on Edmunds that the pick itself was a total head scratcher. He just wasn’t on the radar as a first rounder and was a big reach. They did get a few years of fairly average play out of him, but the pick didn’t make sense at the time.

    I understand that you can’t hit every year, nobody does. But still, that list from 2015 to when Colbert left isn’t good.

    It should of course be acknowledged that Colbert wasn’t the only decision maker and shouldn’t shoulder all of the blame, no more than Khan shouldnt get all the credit for the improved recent drafts.
     

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