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The real reason why we struggle on offense.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelerGlenn, Nov 22, 2024.

  1. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    I did.

    which is why pre-season, I saw us somewhere between 7 and 11 wins.

    they over-loaded with spend on Defense.

    Defense does NOT win Championships in the 2024 Era. you can't take people out like James Harrison USED to do..... you can't hit. all the rules FAVOR the offense. and high scoring.

    we may have loaded up the WRONG side of the football with our spending........
     
  2. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    ahhhh - the GREAT TOMLIN MANTRA - repeat after me......
     
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  3. Tweezer

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    Agree to a degree. The spending may shift over the next few years. At the end of the day though, the Steelers don't have the QB to be in the true SB contenders tier.
     
  4. Formerscribe

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    Oddly enough, their biggest offseason mistake might have been going offense over defense in the first round of the draft. Fautanu may eventually be a key part of the team, but passing on the best corner in the draft was a mistake. Then again, taking Thomas there would have been better, too.
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Uhhmmm..... the Chiefs won last year by Defense, and if they win this year....it will be the same....unless something changes for them.
     
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  6. francobettis

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    agree that our offensiveline is the weakest part of our offensive struggles. can't get a push from our offensive line on 4th and 1 against the Browns. Look at the Ravens last night, they went on 4th and 1 at least 3 times and succeeded each time. I think the talent is there but just doesn't have the right coaching in getting the job done. if we had mike munchak, things would have been very different.
     
  7. RockyBleier

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    The Killer B’s only had a few games where they were all on the field together.
     
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  8. mikeyg

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    NO MORE defense drafted for while. We are devoid on offense. TF was to be a STARTER Day 1 here, like Frazier. We knew it would be a young OL. the idea was the D would DOMINATE. they are not. they are GOOD, but they do not DOMINATE.

    it's OK - FUN be 7-3, but I see us getting bounced quickly again in JAN unless these clowns on offense can start running a NFL style offense. Tomlin and ASmith are 1/2 the problem, the oline is 25% the problem and lack of WR is the other 25%

    50 bucks says Play 1 vs, the Bungles will be Najee up the middle :facepalm::facepalm:;)
    for a gain of 1.....
     
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  9. mikeyg

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    that just is not true.

    if you mean Ben, Brown and Bell, they played MANY MANY games together. Now - in the playoffs, that is a different conversation

    come on Rocky, you know better!!! you do to STD, you can't call that a WINNER
     
  10. mikeyg

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    BUT - their $$$ was not tied up on defense.

    they did / do it with great coaching. They have a guy named Spagnoula - you may have heard of him?

    we don't have that. and they DO HAVE the NEW GOAT of QB's, that does not hurt....

    they also have ..... oh yeah..... great coaching and Mahomes and Spags, yeah....
     
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  11. AskQuestionsLater

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    Should be three but sadly, that dislocated kneecap got Troy bad. That said, I trust today's Sports Therapy and Medicine. For that matter, people wrote off David DeCastro after suffering not just a Dislocated Kneecap but also an MCL Tear... in 2012. He had one hell of a career.


    I believe Troy will too.
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I thought He was talking playoffs
     
  13. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Dude use some common sense here, and stop saying things just because others say them.
    Of course there is more money spent on the Defense....it's all older guys, and the offense is mostly guys on rookie contracts.....should we just pay the younger guys more money just because??? Also we are paying about 5 million dollars for all 3 of our Qbs added together.
    This is also why it's extremely of bad judgment to say not to Draft the Defense.....that's how You get cheaper on Defense. Please I know You aren't dumb.....so Just think about it , and use the brain you have.
     
  14. We need a change

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    It’s just a fact dip****. And you mantra is that “they haven’t won a playoff game in years”. That’s a fact too!!
     
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  15. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    i clarified that, if that was so.
     
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  16. Rollers

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    this might be an issue. Just sayin

    Since Russell Wilson took over as starter, the Steelers have run 25 first-down plays inside the opponent's 20-yard line; 22 have been runs
     
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  17. forgotten1

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  18. Bubbahotep

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    vs Browns:

    18 first down runs; 8 first down passes

    avg yards gained on 1st down runs = 2.8

    avg yards gained on 1st down passes = 4.8
     
  19. Bubbahotep

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    Yep. posted the chart in another thread. Very lopsided playcalling.
     
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  20. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    NO o-line--- Russ must throw faster like Ben -----or we will suffer mightily. Just throw it fast Russ.----Harris must go and Patterson too--- ID keep Warren.and draft a RB or free agent---
     
  21. Brice

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    Before you let RB #1 and RB #3 go, shouldn't you kick the tires on Warren and see what he can do as a feature back?

    2024 average carries per game. 8.3
    2023 average carries per game. 8.7
    2022 average carries per game. 4.8

    Are you ready to hang your hat on a guy that has never averaged more than 8 carries in a game?
     
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  22. Formerscribe

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    Defense and a quarterback who becomes unstoppable when the game is on the line.
     
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  23. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    I would draft a new--- 1 rb--- or free agent. would keep Warren because he runs hard ....Harris won't stay if he gets better money -----so you might as well prepare for him to go....Patterson just isn't that good...But this O-line is ridiculous. Or the coaching....I just want us to win...
     
  24. steel machine

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    I tend to agree with you that defense wins Championships is a thing of the past but it still happens. The last absolute time was Ravens SB back in SB 35. KC defense won that SB for them last season and it is keeping KC in the games until damn Mahomes wins it.

    Speaking of Mahomes, Christmas day we are up by 7 with under 2 minutes and Chiefs got ball. Everyone of us will know Mahomes will tie it up. Thus, we need to be up by 14;)
     
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  25. Bubbahotep

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    The problem with your statement? The guys that looked the worst in the last game were the two seasoned veterans (Moore & Seamalu). I've been unimpressed with Myers' work thus far.
     

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